Wellness

[hckynut]

@Laura14

There is only 1 muscle group that can safely be worked on a daily basis, and it is not the triceps. It has been known as fact or decades that the rest phase for muscles is just as important, maybe even moreso, than the work phase.

Depending on a lot of factors, some say 1 day, while others say 2 days or more. This is as individual as are differences in each persons body, along with it's ability to recover and allow the muscle tissues time to rebuild. This includes adding more and/or stronger muscle fibers.

With Cardio Workouts there is a fact proven way to know what type of workout to do on each specific day. If a person(generally speaking)does not pay attention to this factor, they do only will not gain Cardio Efficiency, they can stall it, even to the point of losing some of it.

I have worked(everything I said to this point pertains to contracting muscles, not the elongation phase)my core/abdominal muscles every day for decades. I listened to this in the 1970's through the late 1990's at several Clinics given by World Renowned Exercise Physiologists the have tested many World Class Athletes, along with people like myself. They all agree that the Abdominal Muscle Group(Core) can, and also benefits, by being doing some type of strengthening every single day.

Too many think that if "a little bit is good, more must be better". Not true with muscles, and millions that have tried running faster or longer, have found out the wrong and bad way, by a major injury that halts all training. 

The human body is capable of amazing things(I just proved it in the last 6 months at now age 78). While it cannot turn back the chronological years, it can go from almost nothing, pertaining to recovery of strength and physical fitness, to class Excellent, if done the correct way. 

Six months ago I was as weak as I have ever been in my athletic lifestyle, but at the present I am a very small minority when it comes to being at the top of physical fitness studies for men in my age group(75-80 year olds). Was recently measured in the top 3% Nationally. That said, I will however never regain the same levels as when I was younger.

As a side note, the lower half of my heart is far from fully functional because of the damage done with my 2 heart attacks, and the 1st one, which includes the potential life ending, Aspiration Pneumonia.

The above is where I stand on working muscle groups(I am talking hard workouts) daily. This is even more true with small muscle groups like the triceps, comparing them to large ones like the Quad Muscles, a very large group.

That is only a primer as I could get deeper in to the "why and what for's". My best to you, but patience is a very big key!

hckynut(john)

[QueenDanceALot]

@hckynut

Yes, it is true that the only muscles that are shown to benefit from daily work are the 
"core" muscles, which are not limited to the abdominals. They are all of the muscles that stabilize the spine.  These muscles are primarily Type 1 fibers and benefit from daily work, and are crucial to healthy back function.

Core stability involves complex movement patterns that continually change as a function of the three-dimensional torque needed to support the various positions of the body.

I have read and studied Dr. Stuart McGill's work in this area.  He is world renowned as a strength and conditioning guru with his groundbreaking work on the human "core".. 

CoachKitty

[QueenDanceALot]

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@Mistreatedbycs wrote:

@QueenDanceALot  I think you should START a COACH KITTY thread, there will be a lot of people who can benefit.

Something daily or even weekly would be appreciated like the tricep paragraph....would be nice to have something to back on and read your tips.

yes?????

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@Mistreatedbycs

I can't commit to a daily thread as my schedule is erratic and unpredictable these days.  I am always happy to weigh in on fitness topics, though, as I have studied and applied the principles of same for many years and have my professional certification.  I have worked with regular folks who wanted to improve their fitness, strength and health on a part-time basis for several years. but am now focused on doing so full time, hence my erratic schedule!

My own fitness journey started over 35 years ago, so I'm no newbie to the arena.  

Thanks for asking, and as I mentioned, I am certainly happy to lend a paw to anyone who seeks CoachKitty's guidance!

[hckynut]

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@QueenDanceALot wrote:

@hckynut

Yes, it is true that the only muscles that are shown to benefit from daily work are the 
"core" muscles, which are not limited to the abdominals. They are all of the muscles that stabilize the spine.  These muscles are primarily Type 1 fibers and benefit from daily work, and are crucial to healthy back function.

Core stability involves complex movement patterns that continually change as a function of the three-dimensional torque needed to support the various positions of the body.

I have read and studied Dr. Stuart McGill's work in this area.  He is world renowned as a strength and conditioning guru with his groundbreaking work on the human "core".. 

CoachKitty

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@QueenDanceALot

Not a professional, just learned from experiences with my own surgical spine issues, and fortunately, have a good solid long term memory. Not sure how far down the spinal muscle list you are equating to "stabilize the spine". 

As you well know, problems with the spine for many start with the feet. Not sure you are including all the backside muscle groups that not only stabilize the spine, but are also inherently responsible for ones balance and overall stability.

As my Spinal Surgeon friend has told me many times, different spinal issues require different treatment, and also different ways of protecting it from further injury.

I have found what works the best for my damaged spine and it is making sure my flexibility gets as much time spent, as do the contraction parts of the frontal and very important core muscles when it comes to my spine. First surgical discs removed when I was 35 years old, many moons ago. It has been a learning curve when it comes to my spine, and just spines in general.

I wasn't intending on focusing on the spine with my comments to @Laura14, it was just about the potential dangers, if you will, of not only slowing down a process, but in many cases causing a serious injury.

My comments here are not and were never intended for me to come across as being in the Trainer or Physical Therapist Professions. Much of what I learned was before there were even solid medical information that even pretended to tell most "regular people athletes", the cause of their injuries, and not even close to knowing the best ways to recover. Then came the prevention! Without knowing the cause, not many in the Medical Community wanted to even touch that part.

If there is a part of my body that hasn't been injured, to some degree, from my zeal for running, prior to such knowledge, and from my passion for both running and participating in ice hockey, I honestly don't know which part that might be. I can start with my feet and work all the way up to the top of my head, both rearside and frontal muscles and the all important connective tissues.

Not sure that Laura14 is the one I was responding to in my post, it could be someone else. Anyways it is always great to have those that visit this forum that are in the Professions they are being asked questions about. My ship for that has sailed, but as long as my long term memory stays the same, I am a satisfied old man.

Thank you as always for your inputs on this popular forum.

hckynut(john)

[QueenDanceALot]

@hckynut

The deepest muscles of the core stabilize the lumbar -  they also work with the middle layer and superficial layer.  If these muscles are weak and/or unbalanced or lack endurance (Stuart McGill's Torso Muscular Endurance Test is used to assess this) then the rest of the body suffers.  This could be a VERY LONG post which I'm sorry but I dont have time to do right now.  I've been steeped in functional anatomy for the past 7 months and may get back to a llonger post on it (if anyone is really interested) at some later date.  

I would never assume to tell someone with long-standing back issues what they should do for their condition.  I was simply talking about what the core is and isn't and what it's function is.  Many people would tell you that the core is all of the musculature of your body, minus your appendages.

I am not sure how we got to the question of what constitutes the core from how to help a woman fix her jiggly triceps, but I'll just leave it for now that without a strong core athletic performance is highly compromised.  And, yes, of course I am including the muscles in both the the anterior and posterior portion of the body, as well as deep lateral muscles.

Hope you, Cindy, and your furkids are all doing well!

Maybe I will bore you all with a dissertation on the function of the core in the near future.

CoachKitty

[hckynut]

@QueenDanceALot

Lol!! Me get bored talking about the human anatomy? Ain't gonna happen. My wife and all the furry ones are fine, and thank you for asking.

Like you, I started with triceps and ended up with my abs and spine, It is called segwayed(?), and it happens to guys like me that never shut up.     =^..^=

hckynut(john)