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[ciao_bella]

[DSD2]

Excellent, honest advice @ciao_bella 

Thank you for the reminder...

[FLtricia]

Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called the children of God.

[shoekitty]

@Amen to that!   @ciao_bella I am 77, tired of confrontations ,and in your face debates that go nowhere   Been there, done that.  That's why I don't watch the news, or read the newspaper lately.  Live in today, be glad for today, and if you aren't...try again tomorrow. Lol

[beach-mom]

Thank you @ciao_bella. 

I always tell my children there is not a lot we can do about everything in the world, but we can make a difference in the lives of those around us.

Of course I don't know if they listen to me!   

[tansy]

There is just too much going horribly wrong presently to not speak up.

Silence is agreement.

[ciao_bella]

@tansy  Disagreement, "speaking up" with respect and civility in a good discussion is one thing, but outright stepping 'over the line' and getting into toxic, hostile fights with name calling, and much worse etc. is off limits, no matter what the intensity of the subject matter.  

[shoekitty]

@tansy @ciao_bella  and others. I found this quote by Actress Helen Mirren quite interesting

Helen Mirren once said: Before you argue with someone, ask yourself, is thatperson even mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of a different perspective. Because if not, there's absolutely no point.

Not every argument is worth your energy. Sometimes, no matter how clearly you express yourself, the other person isn’t listening to understand—they’re listening to react. They’re stuck in their own perspective, unwilling to consider another viewpoint, and engaging with them only drains you.

There’s a difference between a healthy discussion and a pointless debate. A conversation with someone who is open-minded, who values growth and understanding, can be enlightening—even if you don’t agree. But trying to reason with someone who refuses to see beyond their own beliefs? That’s like talking to a wall. No matter how much logic or truth you present, they will twist, deflect, or dismiss your words, not because you’re wrong, but because they’re unwilling to see another side.

Maturity isn’t about who wins an argument—it’s about knowing when an argument isn’t worth having. It’s realizing that your peace is more valuable than proving a point to someone who has already decided they won’t change their mind. Not every battle needs to be fought. Not every person deserves your explanation.

Sometimes, the strongest thing you can do is walk away—not because you have nothing to say, but because you recognize that some people aren’t ready to listen. And that’s not your burden to carry ..

[shoekitty]

@ciao_bella   I agree totally with what you say.  And I love Helen Mirrens sage advice as well.  My point, and I think yours is the forums aren't the place to discuss things we hold so close. It literally tears me inside not to let go at times.  Not to mention, engaging in such discussions as have been going on in against Q policy we all signed on agreeing. Just because one feels they can bend rules or it doesn't apply to them, is no excuse. There are forum and boards that allow this kind of discussion. I for one, want to get away from all that arguing.  I'm tired so tired of it 

[AngelPuppy1]

Some people will argue and argue and argue because they feel they just have to be the one to - in their mind - win the argument and be "right".  I have many times tried to respectfully get my point across on a subject and after awhile realized, that this "discussion" is not going to go any place positive and so I just have to walk away.  I won't get into heated arguments or nasty fights with anyone any more.  It doesn't solve anything and it impedes my mental and physical health.