Kitchen

[SharkE]

Any one here own one?

Are they like a regular bread machine that you have to assemble the ingredients in a certain fashion?

[Gokat]

I have his small, 1 lb., machine, @SharkE .  Any recipes for a breadmaker that I have seen are the same....liquids first, followed by dry ingredients, and yeast last (if used).  Wolf's are the same.  Of course, for mixes, you'd follow their directions.  HTH's

[SharkE]

I used to have a Walmart one had good luck with it then all of a sudden bread wouldn't rise (had good yeast) any more or it would rise then fall.

I got tired of buying boxes of mix just to see it fail, used the right temp of water,etc. Went by the book on the order on how to add.

I noticed WP was pitching stuff in it right and left even added water last. I thought maybe with his it didn't make any difference in what order ingredients went in.

I'd like to find one that you didn't have to be so persnickity. I went back to the old time ways. Never fail. Kind of like to have a fast one though

[Gokat]

I think the order is so that the machine mixes the ingredients thoroughly, @SharkE ...and so that the yeast doesn't rise too soon.  As you know, it's not like a mixing but more of a kneading action.  It wouldn't be quite as important when manually making bread.  

I'd like to see that loaf Wolf threw together after the fact. Lol!  Think he was flying blind without his glasses!  

He got me with the knife set!  I have a great set of Cutco knives, but Wolf's will fill the prep gap which seems to be my main pain!  Wish he'd bring a sous chef up for sale.  THAT I'd grab in a flash!

[Sooner]

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@SharkE wrote:

I used to have a Walmart one had good luck with it then all of a sudden bread wouldn't rise (had good yeast) any more or it would rise then fall.

I got tired of buying boxes of mix just to see it fail, used the right temp of water,etc. Went by the book on the order on how to add.

I noticed WP was pitching stuff in it right and left even added water last. I thought maybe with his it didn't make any difference in what order ingredients went in.

I'd like to find one that you didn't have to be so persnickity. I went back to the old time ways. Never fail. Kind of like to have a fast one though

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There's nothing really persnickitty about any of the three bread machines I've had.  You dump in the liquid and add the flour on top of that, then the salt and yeast.  It isn't a big deal.  They tell you not to add the salt directly in contact with the yeast, so I dump that in with the water or sprinkle it around the edge.  

I take the measuring spoon and make a little depression in the middle of the flour when I put it in, don't know if this is necessary but the first one I had said to do this and I have just kept doing it.

I like bread with an egg in it, so I hold it up high over the paddle and break the shell to plop it in, so it breaks around the paddle.  My own patented method!  LOL!!  And it's fun!!!!! 

[Marp]

There is one thing about the bread machines I have never understood.  Perhaps someone here can explain to me why the water has to be at a certain temperature yet when using delayed start (yummm, warm bread for breakfast) all the ingredients sit there unmixed for hours with the water cooling.

What am I missing?

[chickenbutt]

My guess is that you need water at a certain temp to 'bloom' the yeast.  It's ok that it sits, I would imagine, but it would need to start out at the appropriate temp just for that one purpose.

[Gokat]

It's all about the yeast, @Marp .   I was curious about this as well because I found that from one mfg./presenter to the next the directions varied.  Finally, I checked at King Arthur site and it was explained there.

http://www.kingarthurflour.com/learn/bread-machine-ingredients.html

HTH's

[Marp]

@Gokat, thank you so much.  Guess the water temperature/delayed start thing is nothing more than laziness on the part of the instruction manual writer lol.

I have bookmarked the link for future reference.  I found it very helpful.

[Icegoddess]

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@Gokat wrote:

I have his small, 1 lb., machine, @SharkE .  Any recipes for a breadmaker that I have seen are the same....liquids first, followed by dry ingredients, and yeast last (if used).  Wolf's are the same.  Of course, for mixes, you'd follow their directions.  HTH's

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That's funny.  Back when bread machines had just come out I had one of the DAK R2D2 machines.  You know, those big round machines.  I distinctly remember that you put the yeast in first along the edge followed by dry ingredients and finishing up with the warm liquid.