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Re: Wanted to know about hams

On 11/14/2014 HonnyBrown said:

henny, just curious, why don't you buy food items from China?

I ask because our regional pork producer was recently bought by a Chinese company. I try to eat close to home, but can't always do so.

I make sure not to buy food items - or cooking items - from China. They have no food manufacturing standards or regulations, like our FDA. Or, if they do, they are lax and rarely enforced. I had a co-worker whose parents emigrated from Hong Kong years ago and they will not buy "authentic" Chinese foods from China for this reason.

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Re: Wanted to know about hams

On 11/14/2014 ValuSkr said:
On 11/14/2014 HonnyBrown said:

henny, just curious, why don't you buy food items from China?

I ask because our regional pork producer was recently bought by a Chinese company. I try to eat close to home, but can't always do so.

I make sure not to buy food items - or cooking items - from China. They have no food manufacturing standards or regulations, like our FDA. Or, if they do, they are lax and rarely enforced. I had a co-worker whose parents emigrated from Hong Kong years ago and they will not buy "authentic" Chinese foods from China for this reason.

ITA

I see no reason to import a product like pork, there must be tons of pigs around.

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Re: Wanted to know about hams

On 11/14/2014 jackthebear said:
On 11/14/2014 ValuSkr said:
On 11/14/2014 HonnyBrown said:

henny, just curious, why don't you buy food items from China?

I ask because our regional pork producer was recently bought by a Chinese company. I try to eat close to home, but can't always do so.

I make sure not to buy food items - or cooking items - from China. They have no food manufacturing standards or regulations, like our FDA. Or, if they do, they are lax and rarely enforced. I had a co-worker whose parents emigrated from Hong Kong years ago and they will not buy "authentic" Chinese foods from China for this reason.

ITA

I see no reason to import a product like pork, there must be tons of pigs around.

Valu, thank you and I agree with you.

Jack, the company is located in North Carolina and now owned by a Chinese company. The hogs aren't imported.

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Re: Wanted to know about hams

On 11/14/2014 jackthebear said:
On 11/14/2014 ValuSkr said:
On 11/14/2014 HonnyBrown said:

henny, just curious, why don't you buy food items from China?

I ask because our regional pork producer was recently bought by a Chinese company. I try to eat close to home, but can't always do so.

I make sure not to buy food items - or cooking items - from China. They have no food manufacturing standards or regulations, like our FDA. Or, if they do, they are lax and rarely enforced. I had a co-worker whose parents emigrated from Hong Kong years ago and they will not buy "authentic" Chinese foods from China for this reason.

ITA

I see no reason to import a product like pork, there must be tons of pigs around.

Smithfield, a major US pork/ham producer was recently bought by a Chinese company. This doesn't mean that all of their pigs and farms will be moving to China; I'm sure they will continue to produce product here in existing facilities, as well as opening operations in China, where the market for quality pork products is growing hugely.

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Re: Wanted to know about hams

I would NEVER EVER buy from Smithfield.....in the store or from the Q....They have a practice of cruelty that I would never agree to, and there may be others that have the same practice, but I just do not know about them, as their practice must not be as bad to bring their ethics to the media.......Wink I do like the KC hams, but buy from the KC website, and get a better price.....just check for yourself, and can get free shipping, and with paypal, or paypal credit, that anyone can get, will spread it over 6 months if needed.....I do not use their glazes, as prefer to heat in the pressure cooker.......ALWAYS........as simple, and just the best.....The best MOIST and easy ham to do, and does not tie up the oven.........Cool KC is offering much cheaper prices than the Q for the 1st time...........

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Re: Wanted to know about hams

On 11/14/2014 karlam said:

I thought, just recently, there was a pork shortage because of a virus that took out a lot of the stock. That is probably why there is such an increase in the price of all pork products.

That and the price of feed has gone up quite a lot. Chicken feed ain't cheap anymore!

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Re: Wanted to know about hams

I always order from Honeybaked Hams, but I don't know where they come from.....just know that they're Mmmm Mmmm good!!

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Re: Wanted to know about hams

We have a large and local pork producer in my county, but we are farmers and have hams as part of our annual butcher of meat for the freezer. Right now we have deer and usually have ham, turkey and deer for Thanksgiving and cane grindings. There are somethings that we still don't buy much in stores due to us living as rural as we do. Most of it is fresh or fresh frozen that we or other family put it up. That is why I don't know what the big deal is about these hams,the price of pecans, or canned pumpkins. I really don't get a canned ham like in Christmas with the Cranks. Wow, that was way new to me. We have canned SPAM and Vienna Sausages but not a whole ham. They don't come in those shapes.

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Re: Wanted to know about hams

Thanks for all the input. And thank you for getting the info from the site.

The chinese do not regulate their food products for humans or animals. Two years ago they were putting melamine in dog food and many american dogs died. They use wall board as filler in medicines (pills) and in cosmetics.

I have been hearing that some companies are bringing in chicken from China and processing it here. I guess we need to be vigilant.

I asked the question because on the Q website there was no information.

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Re: Wanted to know about hams

Henny, I heard the opposite. About a year ago it was on CNN and Dr. Oz did a show on it. The Chinese stopped buying our beef because they were afraid of Mad Cow. In order to entice them to buy our beef again, we stupidly made a deal with them to send our chicken to them for processing. It was being reported then that our inspectors would only be allowed in once a year, and we had no say in how the poultry was handled etc...like, we can't police our own food, and now we're inviting more problems, right? I don't know what is happening these days because since then, we buy organic or kosher. There is local butcher we buy from who buys the chicken he sells from local farmers and processes it himself that we also buy from. The chicken we buy tastes better too. Poodlepet