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Since there are two Rachel bashing threads going right now (one is actually on the FASHION FORUM-what's with that?), I'm posting the same thing on both. Then I'm posting the same thing on the one from someone who LOVES Rachel Ray:
I have to put in my two cents worth on this...first of all, why are people talking about Rachel Ray's cookware on a Fashion Forum??? Secondly, I have watched her since she first started on the Food Network with her 30-Minute Meal shows, and since she came to QVC with her products. I saw some of this yesterday, but I just went back and watched some of the videos, and I certainly don't see anything wrong with the way she behaved. It's okay for Susan Graver to be "passionate" about her clothing (since this IS a fashion forum), never take a breath, talk constantly over the hosts, interrupt them, the hosts can't even tell the colors without her talking so I can't hear them, etc. etc.?? That's okay for a lot of people - she's just proud of her product and PASSIONATE! Well, so is Rachel Ray. She does have a voice problem, which I would much rather hear than SG's, and which she can't help--so shame on those of you who put her down for that. She has worked extremely hard, and still does, to get where she is. I've watched her daily talk show, and she is delightful. I did not see any "rolling of the eyes" on David's part (I think he's too professional to do that even if he did feel like it, and I didn't get that vibe at all). Rachel does not talk constantly, and yes, in most of QVC's shows, hosts and vendors interrupt each other from time to time - that's normal. I have Temptations, and all 5 of the bakeware pieces I bought have crazed and cracked so I can't use them - one of them did that just sitting in my cabinet-I had never even used it! Way too late to send them back, but you can bet I would never buy another piece. I will, however, buy Rachel's, and she has every right to be proud of them, and proud of herself. There, I've said my piece!!
I have to put in my two cents worth on this...first of all, why are people talking about Rachel Ray's cookware on a Fashion Forum??? Secondly, I have watched her since she first started on the Food Network with her 30-Minute Meal shows, and since she came to QVC with her products. I saw some of this yesterday, but I just went back and watched some of the videos, and I certainly don't see anything wrong with the way she behaved. It's okay for Susan Graver to be "passionate" about her clothing (since this IS a fashion forum), never take a breath, talk constantly over the hosts, interrupt them, the hosts can't even tell the colors without her talking so I can't hear them, etc. etc.?? That's okay for a lot of people - she's just proud of her product and PASSIONATE! Well, so is Rachel Ray. She does have a voice problem, which I would much rather hear than SG's, and which she can't help--so shame on those of you who put her down for that. She has worked extremely hard, and still does, to get where she is. I've watched her daily talk show, and she is delightful. I did not see any "rolling of the eyes" on David's part (I think he's too professional to do that even if he did feel like it, and I didn't get that vibe at all). Rachel does not talk constantly, and yes, in most of QVC's shows, hosts and vendors interrupt each other from time to time - that's normal. I have Temptations, and all 5 of the bakeware pieces I bought have crazed and cracked so I can't use them - one of them did that just sitting in my cabinet-I had never even used it! Way too late to send them back, but you can bet I would never buy another piece. I will, however, buy Rachel's, and she has every right to be proud of them, and proud of herself. There, I've said my piece!!
Not sure where the idea came from that this is a fashion forum, nor is it about Temptations. But anyway, I didn't find RR obnoxious or rude. Obviously more than one of the hosts didn't know her merchandise very well. David especially. When she was trying to talk about her seasonings (grinders) David was the one interrupting. I wanted to hear her talk about how to use them, and he kept interrupting, trying to read from the containers. Why not just be quiet and let the vendor speak. That's what I would have liked. Mary Beth worked well with Rachel I thought. She knew when to be quiet and let Rachel explain her products. David not so much. I didn't see eye rolling, etc. as I don't usually look at his "childish expressions." At least Rachel acts like a grown up and feminine, as she should be.
I have to put in my two cents worth on this...first of all, why are people talking about Rachel Ray's cookware on a Fashion Forum??? Secondly, I have watched her since she first started on the Food Network with her 30-Minute Meal shows, and since she came to QVC with her products. I saw some of this yesterday, but I just went back and watched some of the videos, and I certainly don't see anything wrong with the way she behaved. It's okay for Susan Graver to be "passionate" about her clothing (since this IS a fashion forum), never take a breath, talk constantly over the hosts, interrupt them, the hosts can't even tell the colors without her talking so I can't hear them, etc. etc.?? That's okay for a lot of people - she's just proud of her product and PASSIONATE! Well, so is Rachel Ray. She does have a voice problem, which I would much rather hear than SG's, and which she can't help--so shame on those of you who put her down for that. She has worked extremely hard, and still does, to get where she is. I've watched her daily talk show, and she is delightful. I did not see any "rolling of the eyes" on David's part (I think he's too professional to do that even if he did feel like it, and I didn't get that vibe at all). Rachel does not talk constantly, and yes, in most of QVC's shows, hosts and vendors interrupt each other from time to time - that's normal. I have Temptations, and all 5 of the bakeware pieces I bought have crazed and cracked so I can't use them - one of them did that just sitting in my cabinet-I had never even used it! Way too late to send them back, but you can bet I would never buy another piece. I will, however, buy Rachel's, and she has every right to be proud of them, and proud of herself. There, I've said my piece!!
Not sure where the idea came from that this is a fashion forum, nor is it about Temptations. But anyway, I didn't find RR obnoxious or rude. Obviously more than one of the hosts didn't know her merchandise very well. David especially. When she was trying to talk about her seasonings (grinders) David was the one interrupting. I wanted to hear her talk about how to use them, and he kept interrupting, trying to read from the containers. Why not just be quiet and let the vendor speak. That's what I would have liked. Mary Beth worked well with Rachel I thought. She knew when to be quiet and let Rachel explain her products. David not so much. I didn't see eye rolling, etc. as I don't usually look at his "childish expressions." At least Rachel acts like a grown up and feminine, as she should be.
Sorry for the confusion - there is a Rachel Ray thread on the Fashion Forum (really a bash Rachel thread) which I posted on first. Then I saw two more on here where people were saying the same type of things, and just decided to copy and paste. A lot of people said they didn't like her products-I was making the point that I prefer hers to the ever-popular Temptations. And I agree with what you've said.
I have to put in my two cents worth on this...first of all, why are people talking about Rachel Ray's cookware on a Fashion Forum??? Secondly, I have watched her since she first started on the Food Network with her 30-Minute Meal shows, and since she came to QVC with her products. I saw some of this yesterday, but I just went back and watched some of the videos, and I certainly don't see anything wrong with the way she behaved. It's okay for Susan Graver to be "passionate" about her clothing (since this IS a fashion forum), never take a breath, talk constantly over the hosts, interrupt them, the hosts can't even tell the colors without her talking so I can't hear them, etc. etc.?? That's okay for a lot of people - she's just proud of her product and PASSIONATE! Well, so is Rachel Ray. She does have a voice problem, which I would much rather hear than SG's, and which she can't help--so shame on those of you who put her down for that. She has worked extremely hard, and still does, to get where she is. I've watched her daily talk show, and she is delightful. I did not see any "rolling of the eyes" on David's part (I think he's too professional to do that even if he did feel like it, and I didn't get that vibe at all). Rachel does not talk constantly, and yes, in most of QVC's shows, hosts and vendors interrupt each other from time to time - that's normal. I have Temptations, and all 5 of the bakeware pieces I bought have crazed and cracked so I can't use them - one of them did that just sitting in my cabinet-I had never even used it! Way too late to send them back, but you can bet I would never buy another piece. I will, however, buy Rachel's, and she has every right to be proud of them, and proud of herself. There, I've said my piece!!
Not sure where the idea came from that this is a fashion forum, nor is it about Temptations. But anyway, I didn't find RR obnoxious or rude. Obviously more than one of the hosts didn't know her merchandise very well. David especially. When she was trying to talk about her seasonings (grinders) David was the one interrupting. I wanted to hear her talk about how to use them, and he kept interrupting, trying to read from the containers. Why not just be quiet and let the vendor speak. That's what I would have liked. Mary Beth worked well with Rachel I thought. She knew when to be quiet and let Rachel explain her products. David not so much. I didn't see eye rolling, etc. as I don't usually look at his "childish expressions." At least Rachel acts like a grown up and feminine, as she should be.
What a strange comment.
I think a grown-up should sense that it's better not to shout and be overly pushy and high-pressure if you truly believe in the merchandise you're selling.
And "feminine"? I don't even get what you're driving at with this adjective.
Amazing, though, how you manage to get your requisite dig into David Venable even when the thread isn't about him. Quite the obsession you've got going there.
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