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01-04-2022 06:47 PM
What does the website say where they are made?
Lots of products will say made in XX country from imported parts. I don't find saying they are made of German steel deceptive.
01-04-2022 06:55 PM
@librarygirlatl I have to disagree with you. I am not familiar with the knives in question, BUT, if all they said is that it is made of German steel, not that it was MADE in Germany, then it's not their fault if you made the leap from that statement of German steel, to also mean that it was made in Germany.
However, I can understand your disappointment.
01-04-2022 10:35 PM - edited 01-04-2022 10:45 PM
@Kachina624 wrote:
@FoxxeeHow do you know its misleading to say the steel was manufactured in Germany? China and other countries make millions of products with components sourced from other countries including the US. Unless the OP has proof to the contrary, I'd assume the blades were Germany steel. I see nothing misleading about QVC's claims.
I hope QVC, Walmart, Neiman Marcus and all US retailers continue to import from China. I can't afford to purchase many that aren't.
I hope the OP remembers her vow not to purchase Chinese the next time she needs a pharmaceutical, computer, cell phone, clothing, or a refrigerator.
Considering the morality that has become acceptable in the USA, I don't think we're in any position to judge the morals of another nation.
I expected a reply from you. We have discussed China previously, though.
"How do you know its misleading to say the steel was manufactured in Germany?"
I didn't say it was misleading to say the steel was made in Germany. I meant it was misleading to say the blades were made of German steel, but not to say the knives were made in China, exactly what made the OP angry. Only mentioning Germany and not China gives the impression the entire knife was made in Germany. All customers heard was Germany.
What about the handles. I want to know where they are made. Did you ever have a blade slip out of a handle. I have. More than once. Guess where they were made. A knife works as a whole, not just the blade.
The problem here as I see it is QVC didn't want to tell us the handles, the knives, were made in China. They only mentioned Germany as a selling point because Germany is known for making excellent products. That would help sell the knives. Made in China wouldn't.
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I can see why some might assume they were made in Germany.
"I hope QVC, Walmart, Neiman Marcus and all US retailers continue to import from China."
Walmart and QVC have been using other countries, as well as, China. Walmart some time ago before QVC and other retailers when they pledged $250 billion to buy products made in the USA. It's been a slow long-term process since they had problems finding enough products manufactured in the U.S. They began helping those who wanted to start their own companies here. They also began buying from other countries besides China.
Yes, QVC a year or two ago began buying from other countries, as well. I think you know that. Prices have been about the same as China.
As for Neiman Marcus, their clothing is made in Italy, and other European countries...the prices reflect the quality, and yes, some things from China however; they are in a bind like other retailers because some of their suppliers are making products in China. If they stopped cold, they wouldn't have enough merchandise to sell. That's the dilemma all retailers face.
"I can't afford to purchase many that aren't."
It's none of my business how much you buy, but since you brought it up and it was directed to me, as much as you buy from QVC, I do think you can afford products made elsewhere and the U.S., too. One time you said you purchased 30 t-shirts in one month, they were perfect and accurately sized in response to a thread complaining about QVC's quality and inconsistent sizing?
30 t-shirts at $35, very conservative estimate, usually priced higher at QVC, equals $1050 in one month for t-shirts. From past posts by you concerning your purchases, I suspect you are one of QVC's top buyers.
"I hope the OP remembers her vow not to purchase Chinese the next time she needs a pharmaceutical, computer, cell phone, clothing, or a refrigerator."
It's almost impossible not to buy many things made in China now, so the OP may be forced when she needs something. She sounded angry to me, so I don't hold that statement against her. How many have changed their minds about something they said when they were angry?
"Considering the morality that has become acceptable in the USA, I don't think we're in any position to judge the morals of another nation."
Yes, morality in the USA has become despicable, but my morality hasn't changed, so I think I am in a position to criticize both countries, and have said plenty about our country on other social media platforms.
01-04-2022 11:03 PM
@Foxxee We'll have to agree to disagree about the "steel made in Germany; knife made in China" issue. Obviously the blade is the part having the most intense use and interest. I don't expect any merchant to list the origin of all the components of a product. That is unrealistic. To me, you infered that the steel probably was not German when none of can prove otherwise.
01-04-2022 11:12 PM
You get what you pay for ...imported from China. Just because salespeople state "german made steel" doesn't imply they are manufactured there.
If those were truly imported and made in Germany like Wusthof knives you would pay over $100 for a paring knife!!!
If the knives cut nicely then I'd keep them -- good luck finding real forged steel knives made in USA for under $30. I have Wusthof knives from 20+ years ago and they were not cheap but still cut great🙂
01-04-2022 11:42 PM
Most items, clothing, kitchen utensils, etc, I don't care where they are made but rather that the quality is there. That absolutely includes items made in China, Vietnam and other Asian countries. These countries make products in all price ranges ( from humble to couture) and they have increased my buying power ( much greater now than when I was in my 20s and had a great part of my paycheck devoted to decretionary spending ( no mortgage and I almost always was well paid). Interestingly even European countries such as Italy frequently have their famous fashion items made by Chinese immigrants living in Italy. Where I personally draw the line with demanding American made ( when feasible) is supply essential items like meds and medical supply ( even if they cost several times the cost of imports, so be it).
01-05-2022 11:45 AM - edited 01-05-2022 01:19 PM
@Kachina624 wrote:@Foxxee We'll have to agree to disagree about the "steel made in Germany; knife made in China" issue. Obviously the blade is the part having the most intense use and interest. I don't expect any merchant to list the origin of all the components of a product. That is unrealistic. To me, you infered that the steel probably was not German when none of can prove otherwise.
Granted, sometimes what we say isn't clear to everyone. It's rather common on this Forum, the human population in general.
However, you put words in my mouth by saying I inferred something; which is how you interpreted it, but others understood what I meant.
On top of that, you accuse me of being ridiculous. Wow! There are other points of view here.
What I said could be interpreted two ways. Your way and my way.
My way: "They" referring to the German steel blades and "they" referring to the knives made in China. The OP's complaint was the blades were made of German steel, not blades were made in Germany, and the knives were made in China. I see a clear connection to what I said to what she said.
Would this align more with your approval if I spell out what I meant? Probably, not, because our opinions differ.
This is my position on the subject except I tried to make that position more clear.
"It is misleading to say the blades are made of German steel; however, the knives are actually made in China which is not revealed to the customer. Without telling customers the knives are made in China or just saying another country might cause them to assume the entire knife is made in Germany just what happened to the OP. All customers hear is Germany."
01-05-2022 03:26 PM
@Foxxee I acknowledge reading your post, however, I prefer not to argue or belabor the discussion further.
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