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Well the problem is that it doens't live in infamy.  September 11, 2001 took that mantle away.

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The memorial has changed over the years. Before visit the actual site you go to an auditorium for a brief film of the event. Hopefully this gives some perspective.

 

Our first visit to the Memorial was 44 years ago and the visitors were quiet and respectful. We took the children about 30 yrs ago and the visitors were acting like they were at the grand canyon. Kids were running up and down the memorial and just not appropriate. We are going back to Honolulu in Jan and will visit again. It holds great importance in how it changed many of our fathers and grandfathers. 

 

I did not mine hearing the thoughts about the young nursing students. My own PCP uses her device as a crutch to plan my care. Don't know how I feel about this. I know a discussion for another time. 

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Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe will visit Pearl Harbor with U.S. President BO---- at the end of this month, becoming the first leader of his country to go to the site of the Japanese attack that propelled the United States into World War II.

Monday's unexpected announcement came two days before the 75th anniversary of the attack and six months after O---- became the first sitting U.S. president to visit the memorial in Hiroshima for victims of the U.S. atomic bombing of that city at the end of the same war.

Abe, in a brief statement to reporters, said he would visit Hawaii on Dec. 26 and 27 to pray for the war dead at the naval base at Pearl Harbor and to hold a final summit meeting with O---- before the latter's presidency ends

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@esmeraldagooch wrote:

Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe will visit Pearl Harbor with U.S. President BO---- at the end of this month, becoming the first leader of his country to go to the site of the Japanese attack that propelled the United States into World War II.

Monday's unexpected announcement came two days before the 75th anniversary of the attack and six months after O---- became the first sitting U.S. president to visit the memorial in Hiroshima for victims of the U.S. atomic bombing of that city at the end of the same war.

Abe, in a brief statement to reporters, said he would visit Hawaii on Dec. 26 and 27 to pray for the war dead at the naval base at Pearl Harbor and to hold a final summit meeting with O---- before the latter's presidency ends


I commend Abe for doing so. If you know the mindset of the Japanese people, this takes tremendous discipline and courage.

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They had a charter plan with the survivors (just 5 now) and the rest with WW2 heroes. The reception they received at the airport was wonderful. 

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@SilleeMee wrote:

@esmeraldagooch wrote:

Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe will visit Pearl Harbor with U.S. President BO---- at the end of this month, becoming the first leader of his country to go to the site of the Japanese attack that propelled the United States into World War II.

Monday's unexpected announcement came two days before the 75th anniversary of the attack and six months after O---- became the first sitting U.S. president to visit the memorial in Hiroshima for victims of the U.S. atomic bombing of that city at the end of the same war.

Abe, in a brief statement to reporters, said he would visit Hawaii on Dec. 26 and 27 to pray for the war dead at the naval base at Pearl Harbor and to hold a final summit meeting with O---- before the latter's presidency ends


I commend Abe for doing so. If you know the mindset of the Japanese people, this takes tremendous discipline and courage.


This is not an apology tour, but may help with healing.

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@esmeraldagooch wrote:

@SilleeMee wrote:

@esmeraldagooch wrote:

Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe will visit Pearl Harbor with U.S. President BO---- at the end of this month, becoming the first leader of his country to go to the site of the Japanese attack that propelled the United States into World War II.

Monday's unexpected announcement came two days before the 75th anniversary of the attack and six months after O---- became the first sitting U.S. president to visit the memorial in Hiroshima for victims of the U.S. atomic bombing of that city at the end of the same war.

Abe, in a brief statement to reporters, said he would visit Hawaii on Dec. 26 and 27 to pray for the war dead at the naval base at Pearl Harbor and to hold a final summit meeting with O---- before the latter's presidency ends


I commend Abe for doing so. If you know the mindset of the Japanese people, this takes tremendous discipline and courage.


This is not an apology tour, but may help with healing.


They will never apologize. It's not in their nature. 

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@songbird wrote:

Well the problem is that it doens't live in infamy.  September 11, 2001 took that mantle away.


I cannot agree with you. 

I had relatives in both the European conflict and the Pacific conflict.  We tell our relatives who younger and are alive today and we keep the history alive. 

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Such a great and fascinating array of responses to this momentous historical event.  Those of you who have personal reminiscences or the memories of relatives who participated to relate, thank you also for providing this invaluable background, things we wouldn't necessarily know by reading textbooks.

 

I appreciate all the history-minded posters on the Q!