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01-13-2020 07:42 PM
@CJC wrote:
@sidsmom wrote:
@FranandZoe wrote:What does this even mean? So MS will no longer "support" Windows 7 - so what. My laptop is still running Windows 7 - I've never had a problem - it's still going strong. IMO this is just a ploy to sell new products. If it ain't broke don't fix it - leave it alone.
If not updating, you'll be RIPE for viruses...even more so than normal.
Good luck with that.
Beware...do not continue to use Windows 7 for online shopping, banking etc. The crooks are drooling just waiting for you to do so.
@FranandZoe If you have a licensed version of windows, and most do, you can upgrade for free. Google upgrade for free and lots of help comes up. It's a huge mistake to leave yourself at risk.
01-13-2020 08:24 PM
But MS isn't my virus protection.
01-13-2020 08:30 PM
Checking for my mom. . .
She has a Dell computer that is about 4 or 5 years old. She has Windows 7 and whatever Microsoft Word/PowerPoint/etc. was new at the time. When we update to Windows 10, will she have to upgrade Microsoft Word too?
Last month I updated Catalina on a MacBook Pro that we've had for 5 years. I no longer had access to Microsoft Word after I updated, so I had to purchase new software. I was wondering if the same will happen to my mom's Dell computer when we update to Windows 10. I'm planning to help her with that this weekend. Thanks for your help.
01-13-2020 08:42 PM
@wildcat fan wrote:Checking for my mom. . .
She has a Dell computer that is about 4 or 5 years old. She has Windows 7 and whatever Microsoft Word/PowerPoint/etc. was new at the time. When we update to Windows 10, will she have to upgrade Microsoft Word too?
Last month I updated Catalina on a MacBook Pro that we've had for 5 years. I no longer had access to Microsoft Word after I updated, so I had to purchase new software. I was wondering if the same will happen to my mom's Dell computer when we update to Windows 10. I'm planning to help her with that this weekend. Thanks for your help.
Your mother should buy a new laptop and replace her software.
How much does she use her machine would a IPad work for her?
01-13-2020 08:48 PM
@Nuttmeg wrote:
@wildcat fan wrote:Checking for my mom. . .
She has a Dell computer that is about 4 or 5 years old. She has Windows 7 and whatever Microsoft Word/PowerPoint/etc. was new at the time. When we update to Windows 10, will she have to upgrade Microsoft Word too?
Last month I updated Catalina on a MacBook Pro that we've had for 5 years. I no longer had access to Microsoft Word after I updated, so I had to purchase new software. I was wondering if the same will happen to my mom's Dell computer when we update to Windows 10. I'm planning to help her with that this weekend. Thanks for your help.
Your mother should buy a new laptop and replace her software.
How much does she use her machine would a IPad work for her?
Thanks for your input @Nuttmeg
She got an iPad last year and really likes it. Sometimes she still uses Microsoft Word, though, so I think that's why she has hung onto the Dell. There are so many good buys on laptops that I'm thinking it might be best if we update, but it takes her time to warm up to the idea of new computers and software. I suggested the cloud based Office 365, which she could use on her iPad, but she's said she doesn't want that. I think we'll check out Best Buy this weekend so she can get a look at what's available.
01-13-2020 09:11 PM
@Icegoddess wrote:I'm fine using Windows 7. I'm not ripe for viruses because I don't use it on the internet. The only time it uses the internet on that machine is when one of my programs updates and that is done from within the program. I'm mainly a Mac user though and I have anti-virus software that covers both Windows & Mac, so if I feel the need to download something, I can do it on the Mac and then transfer it over to the Windows
It will not be safe to run any Windows 7 computers on the net after January 14, 2020.
Please check the update status for all programs on your computer, including the security software.
01-13-2020 09:17 PM
@wildcat fan wrote:
@Nuttmeg wrote:
@wildcat fan wrote:Checking for my mom. . .
She has a Dell computer that is about 4 or 5 years old. She has Windows 7 and whatever Microsoft Word/PowerPoint/etc. was new at the time. When we update to Windows 10, will she have to upgrade Microsoft Word too?
Last month I updated Catalina on a MacBook Pro that we've had for 5 years. I no longer had access to Microsoft Word after I updated, so I had to purchase new software. I was wondering if the same will happen to my mom's Dell computer when we update to Windows 10. I'm planning to help her with that this weekend. Thanks for your help.
Your mother should buy a new laptop and replace her software.
How much does she use her machine would a IPad work for her?
Thanks for your input @Nuttmeg
She got an iPad last year and really likes it. Sometimes she still uses Microsoft Word, though, so I think that's why she has hung onto the Dell. There are so many good buys on laptops that I'm thinking it might be best if we update, but it takes her time to warm up to the idea of new computers and software. I suggested the cloud based Office 365, which she could use on her iPad, but she's said she doesn't want that. I think we'll check out Best Buy this weekend so she can get a look at what's available.
I have been using Office 365 since 2015 on a Windows 8.1 computer. It is a nice program that automatically looks after itself.
Enjoy your shopping trip.
01-13-2020 09:51 PM
@Nuttmeg wrote:
@Icegoddess wrote:I'm fine using Windows 7. I'm not ripe for viruses because I don't use it on the internet. The only time it uses the internet on that machine is when one of my programs updates and that is done from within the program. I'm mainly a Mac user though and I have anti-virus software that covers both Windows & Mac, so if I feel the need to download something, I can do it on the Mac and then transfer it over to the Windows
It will not be safe to run any Windows 7 computers on the net after January 14, 2020.
Please check the update status for all programs on your computer, including the security software.
@Nuttmeg, as I said, I don't use it on the net. I don't have any security software on it because I don't run it on the net. I have one program that goes out and gets updates from within the program. I don't download updates. Whenever I open the program it checks the status, tells me if there is an update available, and then asks do I want to update. It does all the work from there. I won't be updating any of my other programs, ever. One of them is native to XP, and the other I just have no plans to update. There are updates already available for it but they won't work on Windows 7 so I'm not updating it.
01-13-2020 11:38 PM
@Still Raining wrote:I wonder if we have a diehard Windows 95 user here?
Change is hard.
You can't even get online with 95. It just won't process most pages.
The diehards are using XP, which is or was a solid OS. So is 7. I want a command-line prompt, which I can get in 7. They eliminated it in 10, from what I've read. You can also emulate XP in 7 and run programs in it that won't run on 8.1 or whatever that mess is up to by now.
IIRC, the solid OSs were 95, XP, and 7. Don't know how 10 is shaking out. Windows Me, 2000, Vista, and 8/8.1 ranged from troubled to hot messes. I've probably forgotten some.
Although I hate the silly blown-up graphical interface of 10 that seems so dumbed down, I liked Bob, if you can remember that far back.
01-14-2020 12:05 AM
@wildcat fan wrote:Checking for my mom. . .
She has a Dell computer that is about 4 or 5 years old. She has Windows 7 and whatever Microsoft Word/PowerPoint/etc. was new at the time. When we update to Windows 10, will she have to upgrade Microsoft Word too?
Last month I updated Catalina on a MacBook Pro that we've had for 5 years. I no longer had access to Microsoft Word after I updated, so I had to purchase new software. I was wondering if the same will happen to my mom's Dell computer when we update to Windows 10. I'm planning to help her with that this weekend. Thanks for your help.
@wildcat fan, your mother could change over to Pages. It's Mac's version of MS Word. It opens Word documents and doesn't even change the extension to Pages extension until you start making changes and save it. If she just double-clicks on a Word document on her Mac it should bring up that document in Pages since Word is no longer active. Also, I think you can use Pages on the iPad. That was actually one of the reasons I thought of getting an iPad when I needed to get a new tablet after being Android all these years. Nothing to buy, it comes with the Mac OS. I was one of those who lost my MS Office with the update to Catalina too, but I had already started changing some of my documents over to Pages because MS Word was introducing some sort of corruption to some of my documents. Documents in Pages can also be exported in Word format if she wants to share her documents with someone.
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