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[RedTop]

It is my theory that QVC updated their computer system to meet their business needs, and have tried to continue the forums, by pulling it into the new system, and trying to make it work. I suspect many many tweaks have been made in order to get the setup we see now. There is no way things can go back to the way they were, if the change was based on a total system upgrade. It is what it is. I enjoy the challenge of learning to navigate thru a new setup, and wouldn't let something this trivial get to me.

[esmerelda]

Last I heard the forums management was outsourced. Is that still true?

[gardensla]

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doobs:  (I've always called you "doobs" but if that is a problem now let me know)

I'm going to address a few salient points in the above post.

First, there was a change in 2007 when I first joined.  Not a big issue, but it was actually quite a to-do about nics and all.

I'm going to speak for myself here - if anybody thinks I'm mocking them or being passive-aggressive (a very misused term btw) that is on them.

I think most of us will agree that the first day here was chaos - games on this forum, people couldn't find other friends, long-standing threads missing, hearts, tags, lost post counts, etc.

I understand the frustration and quite honestly some have zero patience for change; so we saw multiple threads about the same issues.  We had to wade through quite a bit to get into a semi-comfortable zone today. 

However, I am not talking about posters who email the Q Team regarding board issues; I'm talking about posters emailing because they don't like another poster.  You may not remember but we used to have quite a row-di-dow back in the day when posters would call Corporate to finger point at other posters.  We even had a poster who would fax posts deemed inappropriate by her!

What one perceives as "mocking" or "insulting" is often in their own perception and bias of the person.  I think most of us are mature enough to recognize an insult; but some see a certain nic and off they go - believing that the post is about them and not the topic in general.

This has always been the heart of the problem here; we can go on forever about hurt feelings and tones of posts etc. but in the end we are all people with all the baggage that comes with it - good and bad.

To expect everyone here to forget the past is impossible until a few realize that this board is not all about them.  Not every post is an underhanded attempt to be sarcastic.

We had banned posters returning; fine.  Yet instead of acknowledging that they were banned for their own behavior we are seeing others being blamed for it.  You KNOW why you are banned; coming here and saying the wrong posters were banned just adds more fuel to old, stale, and uninteresting feuds from long ago.

To expect any chat site to run as though everyone lives in a peace, love and Woodstock commune is unrealistic.  It's human behavior.  Most of us poke and snark at times; but most of us also lend a hand of support and kindness when a person is down and out.  We are people; we are not unfeeling machines.  We try not to lash out but sometimes we fail.  I for one do not strive for perfection; the only time I will be perfect is when I am dead.

To come here and continually read complaints about PEOPLE and POSTS is annoying and drove many of us away.  To come here and read complaints about how the board is set up is an entirely different matter.  In that case, yes -- do contact the team if you want.

But please spare us all the faux outrage over this idea that posters are targets and mocked - whenever one points the finger at another there are 3 fingers pointing right back.

I don't pay attention to hearts;  I think I hearted one person and probably by mistake.  I don't pay attention to the mods; their job is their job, not mine.  It's not my board and what they decide to do is on them.  We can take it or leave it.

I feel it is unfair to judge a person for lashing out just as it is unfair to assume that only a select few here have been hurt. 

We all have stories; nobody has a better one than anyone else.  Some of us, like myself, come here for some respite after dealing with family illness; some are lonely, some just like to chat.  If some coud finally put to rest the idea that they are victims and just put away the gloves we might see a better experience for everyone.

"jmoymmv"

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 You know what? Never mind. Life's too short to argue about a shopping chat forum.

[Cakers3]

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@gardensla wrote:

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"jmoymmv"

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The very fact that this thread is still alive goes back to those who had the courage to put themselves out there and ask the moderators to please just take a step back and let users have a chance to sort out their disputes before eliminating the post. And to the users here who, for the most part, kept the temperature on simmer rather than boil.

I knew putting myself out there and relating my experience and how it made me feel might open myself up to less than sympathetic responses; you've proved me right.

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You took my whole post and made it all about you.  I said nothing about you personally.  I responded to dooBdoo and I haven't even READ your post.

The problem here has always been that posters could never work out issues between them without the Mrs. Kravitz's sticking their nose into it to draw sides.

They would end up not resolving issues and were sent to their respective cyber corners to stew.

I proved nothing but expressed my own pov.  I'm not here to cry about all the injustices done to me; and I expect others to stop with accusations about how injust *I* am to them.

edited for spelling and keyboard issues

[SuiGeneris]

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       gardensla wrote:

The very fact that this thread is still alive goes back to those who had the courage to put themselves out there and ask the moderators to please just take a step back and let users have a chance to sort out their disputes before eliminating the post. And to the users here who, for the most part, kept the temperature on simmer rather than boil.

I knew putting myself out there and relating my experience and how it made me feel might open myself up to less than sympathetic responses; you've proved me right.

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gardensla, 

IMO, I think the only reason this thread is still alive is because it appears the moderators have taken a couple of days off.

The last time I saw this symbol   on a thread in CC was noonish on July 3.

Has anyone else noticed the glaring lack of deleted/locked posts and threads? 

[gardensla]

I saw a few interventions yesterday but no poofing.

Hey, I could be wrong but I'm hoping that things may ease up a bit. I know I'm done arguing about this. People are going to see things through their own prism and nothing I say is going to change that.

[Melania]

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@gardensla wrote:

I saw a few interventions yesterday but no poofing.

Hey, I could be wrong but I'm hoping that things may ease up a bit. I know I'm done arguing about this. People are going to see things through their own prism and nothing I say is going to change that.

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Yep!! The no mirror syndrome.

[biancardi]

Fortunately, people can read the posts in order and read for themselves to make a determination if a poster is putting in their digs or not.

It doesn't take much - someone mentions something for the first time on a thread and immediately, a poster takes a dig at that.  coincidence?  Not.

[SuiGeneris]

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@gardensla wrote:

I saw a few interventions yesterday but no poofing.

Hey, I could be wrong but I'm hoping that things may ease up a bit. I know I'm done arguing about this. People are going to see things through their own prism and nothing I say is going to change that.

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I was on and off these boards yesterday, so I didn't realize there were interventions by the mods.  Thanks for clearing that up.  I thought that perhaps we had been given a "holiday reprieve." 

BTW, gardensla, did you notice I wrote a post defending your right to your feelings about the mod's unkind comments to you.  It's post #95 on this thread. 

I'm not looking for "kudos;" I just wanted you to know someone was reading your posts and empathized with your POV. 

[occasionalrain]

 you weren't targeting me, you were targeting all those who have expressed complaints about this board. It's not what you posted, it's the context. The thread was anti complaining posters and your post, in effect, said those complaining should be disregarded, not taken seriously. 

No one wants to be written off  with a trite cliché.