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08-17-2020 11:24 AM
@Krimpette wrote:I can't believe that manufacturing will come back to this county in a way that makes a difference. I honestly don't believe that they would be able to staff factories here.
Really? Check the millions that already have come back. Unless you are talking strictly high tech employment, you are underestimating how many here really want to work. Ever heard of Mike Rowe?
hckynut(john)
08-17-2020 11:29 AM
I did my made in America duty this week - paid 169.96 plus taxes for the New Balance shoes I need if I want to walk any distance.
I will continue to be leery of foods and cosmetics made in China, but until another year rolls around, I'm not likely to reject anything else because of country of origin.
08-17-2020 11:30 AM
@hckynut : I absolutely am NOT joking! I am a believer that "history repeats itself".
08-17-2020 11:30 AM
@Still Raining wrote:The flip side of boycotting China is that one must be OK with them boycotting our soybeans, right? I have family in Iowa who would like a word with you about that.
I live 4 miles from Iowa and have some family members and friends that live in the state. A couple of them are farmers, just not soybeans.
They/you must have missed the billions of subsidies given to get them threw the issue. And the 45 billion trade agreement with China specifically for them.
I ran with many guys here that were farmers and now there sons are farmers. Hard work, yes. Living in poverty? Hardly, not even close.
hckynut(john)
08-17-2020 11:33 AM
@Krimpette wrote:Much as I want to support "buy American", I can't believe that manufacturing will come back to this county in a way that makes a difference. I honestly don't believe that they would be able to staff factories here.
@Krimpette I can assure you that when people are hungry or need a roof over their head or have kids to feed factory work looks very good. At least it did a long time ago when I grew up.
So are people so privileged that they are too good to work in a factory now? If that is true, no wonder we're in a mess.
08-17-2020 11:38 AM
@patbz wrote:@hckynut : I absolutely am NOT joking! I am a believer that "history repeats itself".
Who's talking history? Not me. Guess you think Chinese workers were/are union workers, I do not. Not a history major by a long shot, but I do know the definition the word dictator.
hckynut(john)
08-17-2020 11:38 AM
I can remember years of buying shoddy American-made good....shirts where buttons fell off on the first wearing, and seams that frayed and pulled out. I've never had that happen with Chinese-made clothing.
For years and years, I wouldn't buy an American-made auto because they were so poorly made with many problems. You spent half your time and money at the mechanic's shop. Never had trouble with my VWs.
Look at all the recalls on American-produced food products. It's constant; e.coli, salmonella, foreign stuff in food like plastic or metal shavings, etc.
08-17-2020 11:47 AM
@hckynut : I've actually been to the People's Republic twice (1981 and 2017) and I can attest to the progress they have made in improving the quality of life ( the comparison between my 2 visits was amazing). Obviously, I don't agree with their politics, but don't throw out the baby with the bath water!
08-17-2020 11:51 AM
@Sooner wrote:
@Krimpette wrote:Much as I want to support "buy American", I can't believe that manufacturing will come back to this county in a way that makes a difference. I honestly don't believe that they would be able to staff factories here.
@Krimpette I can assure you that when people are hungry or need a roof over their head or have kids to feed factory work looks very good. At least it did a long time ago when I grew up.
So are people so privileged that they are too good to work in a factory now? If that is true, no wonder we're in a mess.
Hi @Sooner
During my 33 years as a factory worker there were years where those plants had over 7500 factory workers in the 2 plants. All factory work is not equal. Many worked clean jobs in AC plant, I was not 1 of them.
People I know would jump at a chance to work a regular job in a factory here. I know 2 families that are on the 3rd generation working here at the Kellogg's factory.
Said here many times that I worked with several guys that had college degrees. Not a 1 of them quit to get a job in their Major. More factories, plenty want those jobs.
hckynut 🏒
08-17-2020 11:58 AM
hckynut wrote:
Still Raining wrote:The flip side of boycotting China is that one must be OK with them boycotting our soybeans, right? I have family in Iowa who would like a word with you about that.
Still Raining
I live 4 miles from Iowa and have some family members and friends that live in the state. A couple of them are farmers, just not soybeans.
They/you must have missed the billions of subsidies given to get them threw the issue. And the 45 billion trade agreement with China specifically for them.
I ran with many guys here that were farmers and now there sons are farmers. Hard work, yes. Living in poverty? Hardly, not even close.
hckynut(john)
China buys U.S. soybeans for seventh day in a row
Aug 13 (Reuters) - The U.S. Agriculture Department on Thursday said Chinese buyers booked deals to buy 197,000 tonnes of U.S. soybeans, the seventh weekday in a row that the government has reported a sale to the world’s top buyer of the oilseed.
In a separate report, USDA said weekly export sales of soybeans through Aug. 6 totaled 2.13 million tonnes, the most since November 2016.
USDA boosted its 2020/21 U.S. soybean export forecast by 75 million bushels to 2.125 billion bushels in its monthly World Agriculture Supply and Demand Estimates report it released on Wednesday.
Aug.13,2020
USDA announces the following U.S. export sales:
197,000 tonnes of soybeans to China in 2020/21
202,000 tonnes of soybeans to unknown for 2020/21
110,000 tonnes of corn to unknown with 30,000 for 2019/20 and 80,000 for 2020/21
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