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[gidgetgh]

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@ChynnaBlue wrote:

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@gidgetgh wrote:

I've sent pictures of it front and back to Sotheby's. They have a free service and they'll look at things for you. When I heard back from them they just said they weren't interested in it. I also emailed the twins from Antiques Roadshow. Same response. I emailed an auction house in NC that I was referred to. Same response. I understand all that, but no one will go out on a limb and guide me in the right direction or give me an idea of what have or don't have. 

A few of them suggested consignment. I'm fine with that but I don't know whether to consign it for $1 or 1 million dollars. 

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If they've all told you they aren't interested, I think that's your answer - it's not worth much.

Sell it for whatever you think is a fair price or donate it to a silent auction.

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@ChynnaBlue- Sotheby's is only interested in things $5,000 and up. 

I'd happily sell it. Gleefully sell it. But I have no idea what to charge for it. 

[RoughDraft]

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@gidgetgh wrote:

For anyone who cares at this point, if you Google the painting "The Drunkard" by Diego Velasquez, this guy is the main focus of that painting. 

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Spot on!  It looks exactly like him.  You might be a better art detective than you think.  

Initially, I thought he might have been a worker in a vinyard and the bowl is full of wine.

[magicmoodz]

@gidgetgh  

Interesting piece.  I wonder if the clothing would be a clue?  I think the facial features are done very well which displays talent.  But the hand looks disjointed to me--is that how you see it? And the philodendron leaves must have a meaning, but it is lost on me.  

I do think you should contact a local curator (or two) to get their advice.  

[RoughDraft]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNoeLF6I52s

Here's a youtube video about the painting.

[lulu2]

@gidgetgh

I am no help but I understand why neither you nor your sister want HIM.

[ChynnaBlue]

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@gidgetgh wrote:

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@ChynnaBlue wrote:

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@gidgetgh wrote:

I've sent pictures of it front and back to Sotheby's. They have a free service and they'll look at things for you. When I heard back from them they just said they weren't interested in it. I also emailed the twins from Antiques Roadshow. Same response. I emailed an auction house in NC that I was referred to. Same response. I understand all that, but no one will go out on a limb and guide me in the right direction or give me an idea of what have or don't have. 

A few of them suggested consignment. I'm fine with that but I don't know whether to consign it for $1 or 1 million dollars. 

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If they've all told you they aren't interested, I think that's your answer - it's not worth much.

Sell it for whatever you think is a fair price or donate it to a silent auction.

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@ChynnaBlue- Sotheby's is only interested in things $5,000 and up. 

I'd happily sell it. Gleefully sell it. But I have no idea what to charge for it. 

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Then you should probably have it appraised by a professional art appraiser. 

Right now it's in your head as Schroedinger's Painting - somehow simultaneously being worth just under $5000 or $1.

If you honestly think it could be worth something, pay for an actual appraisal and stop trying to get something for free. If you don't want to pay for an appraisal, sell it for whatever you think is a reasonable price.

[sunshine45]

so the painting you have is a painting someone partially "copied" from a well known painting. my guess is is that it is not worth too much, especially if those in the field are not interested.

via wikipedia:

The Triumph of Bacchus (Greek title is Ο Θρίαμβος του Βάκχου) is a 1628 painting by Diego Velázquez, now in the Museo del Prado, in Madrid. The painting shows Bacchus surrounded by drunks. It is popularly known as Los borrachos or The Drinkers (politely, also The Drunks).

Velázquez painted it between 1626 and 1628, after arriving in Madrid from Seville and just before his voyage to Italy. In Madrid, Velázquez was able to study the king's collection of Italian paintings and was no doubt struck by the nudity in many paintings as well as the treatment of mythological subjects.

The work was painted for Philip IV, who paid Velázquez 100 ducats for it.[1]

[gidgetgh]

Anyone want to take a stab on the signature?  How about the first letter of the last name?  Do you think that's an old fashioned "G"?  I don't think it's a "Z" because it looks like his first initial is "Z" and this letter looks nothing like that. 

[tends2dogs]

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@gidgetgh wrote:

And here's the back. Do you think a black light or ultraviolet light would help with the signature?

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@gidgetgh  Now don't take this the wrong way, but do you think your dad was pulling your leg when he said he remembered it from his childhood?  The date looks like 1988 or 1981.  The name looks like Z. S. Gannah or Hannah and the other word I think maybe a town??    I enlarged it and it sort of helped.

Personally,  the picture creeps me out, too, sorry.

It looks like an ad for soup and the guy looks a little gooofy.  Hey, you posted and asked.  I am going to look at this close when I get home.  BTW what did you think it said OR what letters did you try GOOGLING?

[gidgetgh]

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@tends2dogs wrote:

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@gidgetgh wrote:

And here's the back. Do you think a black light or ultraviolet light would help with the signature?

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@gidgetgh  Now don't take this the wrong way, but do you think your dad was pulling your leg when he said he remembered it from his childhood?  The date looks like 1988 or 1981.  The name looks like Z. S. Gannah or Hannah and the other word I think maybe a town??    I enlarged it and it sort of helped.

Personally,  the picture creeps me out, too, sorry.

It looks like an ad for soup and the guy looks a little gooofy.  Hey, you posted and asked.  I am going to look at this close when I get home.  BTW what did you think it said OR what letters did you try GOOGLING?

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@tends2dogs- no, he wasn't pulling my leg. The name of the frame shop on the back is very old. I've googled that. And I was born in 1955 and I remember the picture from MY childhood. The local art guy I saw thinks it's 1898. 

You don't have to apologize for not liking the painting, LOL. We don't like it either!!