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Re: What is the Endgame ?

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@chickenbutt wrote:

I was also thinking about my thought that probably some of thei practices and shortcomings are more what cause reduction in profits than hosts.

 

I'd be willing to bet that most people, even if they cannot stand a given host, will still want to see the product and either order online or call in, so I think the products have more power than the hosts.

 

That said, I think they are falling behind in products as well.  Between their systems and much of the outdated products, that's where I think they should concentrate.


@chickenbutt 

 

You make a great point, repetitive products are also a problem.....particularly on the weekends ....

 

There are some programs that describe your scenario ---- I've seen a product in the preview that I was interested in and have tried to watch....but just couldnt tolerate the silliness and turned the channel......If you order online and the item is not "on air", then the host doesnt get the credit, it's recorded as a "website sale"---thats what I read in the financial reports.......so if there's a video with a different host occasionally I'll wait and watch that and sometimes order online....

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@Spurt wrote:

@chickenbutt wrote:

I was also thinking about my thought that probably some of thei practices and shortcomings are more what cause reduction in profits than hosts.

 

I'd be willing to bet that most people, even if they cannot stand a given host, will still want to see the product and either order online or call in, so I think the products have more power than the hosts.

 

That said, I think they are falling behind in products as well.  Between their systems and much of the outdated products, that's where I think they should concentrate.


@chickenbutt 

 

You make a great point, repetitive products are also a problem.....particularly on the weekends when more people are apt to channel surf....

 

There are some programs that describe your scenario ---- I've seen a product in the preview that I was interested in and have tried to watch....but just couldnt tolerate the silliness and turned the channel......If you order online and the item is not "on air", then the host doesnt get the credit, it's recorded as a "website sale"---thats what I read in the financial reports.......so if there's a video with a different host occasionally I'll wait and watch that and sometimes order online....


 

(bolded by me)  Oh wow!  That is very interesting.     I imagine, then, if people order online during the show they still get credit.   

 

I have to say that I seldom watch anymore, no matter who is hosting, but will check the 'recently on air' thing to see if any of the shows were products I like and I'd bet that 99% of the time that's how I order.

 

I would not have thought that it would affect the sales numbers that a given host gets.   Since the internet became so much more prevalent it feels kind of weird but I guess it does make sense in the scenario you presented specifically ordering before or after a show.

 

I guess it's pretty much like any TV show where the numbers are produced based on viewing.   This situation is viewing AND buying, both of which would have to be ultimately important.

 

I would loved to have gone to one of the studio/warehouse tours.  I bet that is pretty cool.  I've always liked factory tours, anyway.  Been to a few in this country and Netherlands, etc.   It's always fun.

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@chickenbutt wrote:

@Spurt wrote:

@chickenbutt wrote:

I was also thinking about my thought that probably some of thei practices and shortcomings are more what cause reduction in profits than hosts.

 

I'd be willing to bet that most people, even if they cannot stand a given host, will still want to see the product and either order online or call in, so I think the products have more power than the hosts.

 

That said, I think they are falling behind in products as well.  Between their systems and much of the outdated products, that's where I think they should concentrate.


@chickenbutt 

 

You make a great point, repetitive products are also a problem.....particularly on the weekends when more people are apt to channel surf....

 

There are some programs that describe your scenario ---- I've seen a product in the preview that I was interested in and have tried to watch....but just couldnt tolerate the silliness and turned the channel......If you order online and the item is not "on air", then the host doesnt get the credit, it's recorded as a "website sale"---thats what I read in the financial reports.......so if there's a video with a different host occasionally I'll wait and watch that and sometimes order online....


 

(bolded by me)  Oh wow!  That is very interesting.     I imagine, then, if people order online during the show they still get credit.   

 

I have to say that I seldom watch anymore, no matter who is hosting, but will check the 'recently on air' thing to see if any of the shows were products I like and I'd bet that 99% of the time that's how I order.

 

I would not have thought that it would affect the sales numbers that a given host gets.   Since the internet became so much more prevalent it feels kind of weird but I guess it does make sense in the scenario you presented specifically ordering before or after a show.

 

I guess it's pretty much like any TV show where the numbers are produced based on viewing.   This situation is viewing AND buying, both of which would have to be ultimately important.

 

I would loved to have gone to one of the studio/warehouse tours.  I bet that is pretty cool.  I've always liked factory tours, anyway.  Been to a few in this country and Netherlands, etc.   It's always fun.


The same is true for the vendors.  The vendors get the most "credit" for orders placed for their products while they are on air.  It also affects how often they get on air, i.e. more sales made on air, more air time.

 

They do get credit for all sales made at any time, it just doesn't count as much as the sales while they are on air.

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@chickenbutt wrote:

@Spurt wrote:

@chickenbutt wrote:

I was also thinking about my thought that probably some of thei practices and shortcomings are more what cause reduction in profits than hosts.

 

I'd be willing to bet that most people, even if they cannot stand a given host, will still want to see the product and either order online or call in, so I think the products have more power than the hosts.

 

That said, I think they are falling behind in products as well.  Between their systems and much of the outdated products, that's where I think they should concentrate.


@chickenbutt 

 

You make a great point, repetitive products are also a problem.....particularly on the weekends when more people are apt to channel surf....

 

There are some programs that describe your scenario ---- I've seen a product in the preview that I was interested in and have tried to watch....but just couldnt tolerate the silliness and turned the channel......If you order online and the item is not "on air", then the host doesnt get the credit, it's recorded as a "website sale"---thats what I read in the financial reports.......so if there's a video with a different host occasionally I'll wait and watch that and sometimes order online....


 

(bolded by me)  Oh wow!  That is very interesting.     I imagine, then, if people order online during the show they still get credit.   

 

I have to say that I seldom watch anymore, no matter who is hosting, but will check the 'recently on air' thing to see if any of the shows were products I like and I'd bet that 99% of the time that's how I order.

 

I would not have thought that it would affect the sales numbers that a given host gets.   Since the internet became so much more prevalent it feels kind of weird but I guess it does make sense in the scenario you presented specifically ordering before or after a show.

 

I guess it's pretty much like any TV show where the numbers are produced based on viewing.   This situation is viewing AND buying, both of which would have to be ultimately important.

 

I would loved to have gone to one of the studio/warehouse tours.  I bet that is pretty cool.  I've always liked factory tours, anyway.  Been to a few in this country and Netherlands, etc.   It's always fun.


@chickenbutt 

 

Yes, I bet back in the old days when they were available a tour would have been fun to do...

 

And one more thing----sales only impact a host's salary raises and bonuses, (QVC was sued long ago by several hosts who complained about their time slots and said they had a much smaller viewing audience to make a sale---the Judge ruled at that time that the male hosts got the favorable times and one of the host won her case---you can google it to get the info).....

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@KathyM23 wrote:

@Spurt   Many complaints that I see are criticiism of a host personally, not in a constructive way.  


 

@KathyM23 - yes, that's what bothers me. The personal insults.  They are so uncalled for.


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@chickenbutt wrote:

@Spurt wrote:

@chickenbutt wrote:

I was also thinking about my thought that probably some of thei practices and shortcomings are more what cause reduction in profits than hosts.

 

I'd be willing to bet that most people, even if they cannot stand a given host, will still want to see the product and either order online or call in, so I think the products have more power than the hosts.

 

That said, I think they are falling behind in products as well.  Between their systems and much of the outdated products, that's where I think they should concentrate.


@chickenbutt 

 

You make a great point, repetitive products are also a problem.....particularly on the weekends when more people are apt to channel surf....

 

There are some programs that describe your scenario ---- I've seen a product in the preview that I was interested in and have tried to watch....but just couldnt tolerate the silliness and turned the channel......If you order online and the item is not "on air", then the host doesnt get the credit, it's recorded as a "website sale"---thats what I read in the financial reports.......so if there's a video with a different host occasionally I'll wait and watch that and sometimes order online....


 

(bolded by me)  Oh wow!  That is very interesting.     I imagine, then, if people order online during the show they still get credit.   

 

I have to say that I seldom watch anymore, no matter who is hosting, but will check the 'recently on air' thing to see if any of the shows were products I like and I'd bet that 99% of the time that's how I order.

 

I would not have thought that it would affect the sales numbers that a given host gets.   Since the internet became so much more prevalent it feels kind of weird but I guess it does make sense in the scenario you presented specifically ordering before or after a show.

 

I guess it's pretty much like any TV show where the numbers are produced based on viewing.   This situation is viewing AND buying, both of which would have to be ultimately important.

 

I would loved to have gone to one of the studio/warehouse tours.  I bet that is pretty cool.  I've always liked factory tours, anyway.  Been to a few in this country and Netherlands, etc.   It's always fun.


@chickenbutt I dragged my son to a studio tour, years ago, when we were in the area.  It was interesting.  Albany was hosting at the time - so you know it was that long ago.  We got to stand behind the producer, who had a big screen to track sales.  If the host made a particular comment, and that seemed to spur on sales, then the producer would tell the host to make similar comments to keep the sales going.  I remember asking my tour guide something about the people who call in. I don't remember her exact words, but I got the feeling that they would not put a customer on air if they had a lot of returns themselves.  In other words, they only wanted to put on "satisfied" customers.  The studio is huge.  It must cost a fortune to keep that place running.  There was a small shop by the entrance of QVC stuff they were selling.  I don't think I bought anything.  They gave everyone a flexible tape measure as a "gift."

 

 

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None of them bothers me enuff to be upset or anything. If someone that I dont like listening to I dont watch or mute if there are things on their show that I really wanna see!Man Very Happy

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