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[Blahblahvampemer]

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@hopi wrote:

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@Blahblahvampemer wrote:

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@NEvans2 wrote:

So my question to all these people in various states and counties around the country is, if your protesting and ignoring  the social distancing and wearing of masks would cause a second surge of this horrendous virus, would you give up your ventilator so someone who did follow the rules could have one? Think about that.

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We now have a surplus of ventilators, and we're sending them overseas.

Even doctors are saying we overreacted, and the masks are actually not all that worthwhile.  One figure I heard was that 40% of the transmissions were through the eye, and since most gloved and masked people are still touching their faces, oops.

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Doctors on Fox say anything.  The social distancing worked.   You have personally have figured out  the problem of transmission that have stumped the whole world for ages.  Wow 

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It wasn't on Fox.  I spend two hours a day scouring the Net doing research, and I pursue the science.  If you want to panic, be my guest.

[Kalli]

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@Blahblahvampemer wrote:

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@NEvans2 wrote:

So my question to all these people in various states and counties around the country is, if your protesting and ignoring  the social distancing and wearing of masks would cause a second surge of this horrendous virus, would you give up your ventilator so someone who did follow the rules could have one? Think about that.

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We now have a surplus of ventilators, and we're sending them overseas.

Even doctors are saying we overreacted, and the masks are actually not all that worthwhile.  One figure I heard was that 40% of the transmissions were through the eye, and since most gloved and masked people are still touching their faces, oops.

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@Blahblahvampemer , I have a loved one working on the frontlines in NYC and know a few of his coworkers. Not one of them is thinking we overreacted. Not sure which drs think this but I’m wondering if they are ER and ICU drs in areas that are hard hit?? Those healthcare workers have had it rough. They’ve worked very hard but have lost many patients. Very disheartening.

Masks may not be greatly effective on their own but masks + social distancing might help a little. I believe they were suggested because many people are demanding they be allowed to be “free” and since these folks are saying they’re not going to stay home anymore, masks + social distancing will be better than nothing at all. And while people may still eventually get sick and be critical, this may spread out the cases instead of inundating hospital workers with too many patients at once. 

[hopi]

@Blahblahvampemer wrote:

Even doctors are saying we overreacted, and the masks are actually not all that worthwhile.  One figure I heard was that 40% of the transmissions were through the eye, and since most gloved and masked people are still touching their faces, oops.

@hopi wrote

Doctors on Fox say anything.  The social distancing worked.   You have personally have figured out  the problem of transmission that have stumped the whole world for ages.  Wow 

@Blahblahvampemer wrote:

It wasn't on Fox.  I spend two hours a day scouring the Net doing research, and I pursue the science.  If you want to panic, be my guest.

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Better yet!!!!  We all know every thing on the internet is true. 2 hours of scouring  should get you a medical degree

[KarenQVC]

@Blahblahvampemer 

What do all these freedoms allow you to do on an ordinary day?

[SandySparkles]

This level of civil disobedience, and blatant disregard for policy has to CEASE. We have already witnessed the ramification of their self-satisfaction, and obvious disdain for self preservation! We can only hope, and pray.🙏😊

~~~All we need is LOVE💖

[Mominohio]

The fact is there are many people who don't believe this is as bad everywhere and won't be, as it is in other places. They think that their rights are more important than safety, they think things have gone way beyond what is constitutional, they really don't believe that the average healthy person will suffer greatly from this even if they do get it, and that people should be able by this time to take the risks of going back to normal (or close to it) if they want to. They believe numbers are being manipulated to suit the removal of rights. They know that this is not sustainable for the length of time the medical professionals say it will take to greatly control this, and 'we' have got to open back up and let the chips fall where they may. 

There are others that think we should shut down and stay that way until the numbers are extremely low, vaccines and treatments are available, regardless of the costs. 

Most people fall in the middle somewhere.

The thing is, even people willing to quarantining themselves while the rest of the world opens up (at whatever speed) can't totally protect themselves once things open back up. They will have to go to a dentist, or a medical appointment, or make a trip to the store, or take delivery from someone else and face some kind of exposure. The worst the infections, the more at risk they will be.

Those that want to just throw caution to the wind, don't take into consideration that it won't be just themselves that get sick. Those who isolate themselves will have to have even some limited contact over the next many months. Some people with conditions are going to be forced to go back to work to survive, and because others aren't distancing outside the workplace, will be exposed and get sick. 

The health officials have made it clear from the beginning that this inconvenience isn't necessarily about you, but about protecting others. Just relaxing things enough to get people back to work and get the economy running again is going to be risky enough, but people gathering in large groups in protests, on beaches etc. are going to most likely risk the recovery of workplaces and and the economy. I don't think they get it that the sooner everyone just eases back in with a lot of safety measures in place, to the most important things like jobs first, and the more people only go to work and do the essentials the safer the recovery will be, and the more likely it won't lead to repeated back tracking and shutdowns.

[proudlyfromNJ]

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@KarenQVC wrote:

This obsession with Freeeee-dom kills me. Is it the freedom to run around with guns bigger than they are, to wear clothes with offensive symbols, to eat Ding Dongs and drink beers?

Their lives are so meaningless they just let others tell them what to think and how to act.  Pathetic.

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@KarenQVC  I know what you are saying. They scare me. It's like they want no Government and just want to run wild with a gun bigger  than they are. They don't believe it but the country was not founded on having a free for all if something doesn't suit your way of thinking. Some foundations of the country can certainly get skewed at times.

[KarenQVC]

@proudlyfromNJ These are the poorly educated who were riding high until the CV.  They have to sense something is wrong when so many are dying.

Would that they would cool their jets and use their indoor time to retake the American History and science courses they slept through in high school. 

[stuyvesant]

Boy some of you posters are harsh.  Maybe it's too scary to acknowledge that these people (who horrified me, btw) aren't stupid, poorly educated wannabees.

[KarenQVC]

We in MI know these groups produced Timothy McVeigh.  Yes, that MI militiaman who blew up the federal building.  We know there are terrorists among them now.