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08-14-2018 09:33 PM
08-14-2018 09:52 PM
@SunValley wrote:I guess by now I shouldn’t be surprised by anything, but it still astounds me how little common sense people display even when they know the consequences. Self control and professionalism seem to be in short supply.
This behavior has been been going on as long as humans have been around. My dear aunts experienced sexual assault, one as a child from her elementary principal and the other from her boss as a young secretary. They both told me when they were in their eighties and it was the first time that they revealed it to anyone. I was honored that they trusted me.
08-14-2018 09:54 PM
Why do men and women with power of any kind think that they are entitled because of their standing in the community. I learned this early in my life. Six years old. Sadly you are changed for the rest of your life.
08-14-2018 10:03 PM
@mom2four0418 wrote:
@Oznell wrote:What struck me most, apart from the bizarre nature of the circumstances, is that apparently she has colleagues, who also count themselves as feminists, who seem to be disposed to giving her a pass, and condemning the student, because of who she is. It's a double standard that is ironic and disturbing.
Why is the word "feminists" being used in your posts?
I picked up on that right from post #1,
08-14-2018 10:09 PM
@JaneMarple wrote:
@mom2four0418 wrote:
@Oznell wrote:What struck me most, apart from the bizarre nature of the circumstances, is that apparently she has colleagues, who also count themselves as feminists, who seem to be disposed to giving her a pass, and condemning the student, because of who she is. It's a double standard that is ironic and disturbing.
Why is the word "feminists" being used in your posts?
I picked up on that right from post #1,
The word “feminist” was used in the article.
08-14-2018 10:42 PM
@mom2four0418 wrote:
@Oznell wrote:What struck me most, apart from the bizarre nature of the circumstances, is that apparently she has colleagues, who also count themselves as feminists, who seem to be disposed to giving her a pass, and condemning the student, because of who she is. It's a double standard that is ironic and disturbing.
Why is the word "feminists" being used in your posts?
It was in the article title and it makes for good bait for heated arguments lol.
08-14-2018 10:48 PM - edited 08-14-2018 10:49 PM
@lovesrecess wrote:
I don't get any of it! They are both gay and his name is Nimrod? Smh....
Well, it’s his name, so....
08-14-2018 10:56 PM
You're right, @Ruby Laine, the discussion in the New York Times article made the point that the situation was "roiling" (I think that was one of the descriptions they used) or dividing, some people who identify as feminists, who would normally be rallying to the alleged victim, but instead were supporting the professor against the student.
08-14-2018 11:54 PM
@Oznell wrote:You're right, @Ruby Laine, the discussion in the New York Times article made the point that the situation was "roiling" (I think that was one of the descriptions they used) or dividing, some people who identify as feminists, who would normally be rallying to the alleged victim, but instead were supporting the professor against the student.
There were many things mentioned in the article that were not mentioned in the original post. The college found that she did sexually harass the former grad student who has filed a multi-million law suit against the college. Her colleagues supported her in the same way that many people support colleagues, family & friends accused of similar crimes. I have a co-worker who refers to me as a liberal feminist because she thinks it will offend me. There are many people who have never looked up the meaning of the word! LOL
08-15-2018 12:09 AM - edited 08-15-2018 03:33 AM
Scoot over, @mom2four0418, I want to sit by you!😁
I think the mistakes here are twofold: stereotyping and also presenting only part of a story. I'm kind of tired of the way the feminist labeling tries to put people in one box, as if they all are robots or clones. Feminists come in all shapes, sizes, and attitudes. In this situation, people who are the woman's friends and colleagues and who also identify as feminists wanted to support her. This happens, right or wrong, and as a human being I can understand how the first reaction is to be there for a friend... someone with whom I have an important history. It's the human heart... and sometimes we have to step back and try to be more objective, but we don't always do that at first, or well. The human heart is powerful.
I think the story is another example of the attempt to divide. To draw a line in the sand and prompt people to take sides. If we really want to put a stop to all the divisiveness in society and in this country in particular, we need to take a close look at this type of story that can perpetuate conflict, division, and that reduces people to often-poorly-defined one-dimensional labels.
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