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[Tinkrbl44]

OP ... this is now the second thread you've started on this topic ..... do you work for this guy?

[Plaid Pants2]

On 4/4/2015 Tinkrbl44 said:

OP ... this is now the second thread you've started on this topic ..... do you work for this guy?

I'm wondering that too.

[foundinlv]

On 4/4/2015 sidsmom said:

Thanks, ilikeshade, for posting this article from Dr. McDougall! His health/dietary message has been consistent since the 70's. Just proves that human health isn't a mystery. Do a body right & it will reward you. I wanted to reiterate the dietary portion of your article (below):

Chronic Disease Causes Low Vitamin D

Eating the Western diet causes serious common chronic diseases. In an effort to heal, the body responds with repair processes that include inflammation. One of the responses to this inflammation is the lowering of the serum 25-hydroxyvitamin D in the blood. Thus, low vitamin D in the blood is a result of being ill, not the cause of sickness. This is the main the reason studies using vitamin D supplements have consistently shown no benefits to patients with common chronic diseases. The metabolic imbalances created by administrating this unnatural substance may actually be responsible for the increase in falls, fractures, and other damage. (Vitamin D is a hormone synthesized with the help of sunlight; it is not intended for oral intake or injection.)

Studies show, in addition to the healing processes, that even our basic food choices lead to inflammation. Consuming meat and other animal foods increase inflammation while grains and vegetables decrease inflammation . Thus, low vitamin D levels do not cause obesity, heart disease, diabetes, multiple sclerosis, and cancer, but rather result from the illnesses (and the very foods that caused these chronic conditions).

The epidemic of obesity has added to the epidemic of vitamin D deficiency. Because vitamin D is fat-soluble, excess body fat will pull vitamin D out of circulation, thus contributing to lower levels.

You're welcome sidsmom and thanks for posting.

[Snowpuppy]

On 4/4/2015 NoelSeven said:

On 4/4/2015 Ilikeshade said: <ol style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; line-height: 12.8960008621216px;"> <li class="mod" style="line-height: 1.24; margin: 0px; padding: 0px 15px; border: 0px; list-style: none; clear: none;">

John A. McDougall<<a class="image" rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:John_McDougall_in_2013-09-24_11-25.jpg"><<a title="United States" rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States">American physician, Known forTreating degenerative diseases with a low-fat, whole foods, plant-based/vegan dietThe McDougall Plan (1983)http://www.drmcdougall.com <p style="margin: 0.5em 0px; line-height: inherit;">John A. McDougall is an American physician and author whose philosophy is that degenerative disease can be prevented and treated with a low-fat, whole foods, plant-based/vegan diet – especially one based on starches such as potatoes, rice, and corn – which excludes all animal foods and added vegetable oils. Dr. McDougall is of Irish descent.

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I'd also say that is quackery.

I tried the low fat because fat makes you fat/high carb diet. I never felt so sick and so tired! I switch to high protein/low carb and the pounds fell off.

That said I know people who have tried high protein with no success at all. Different strokes for different folks.

[bikerbabe]

What a ridiculous study. What nut would take a half million IU dose?

[NoelSeven]

On 4/4/2015 Snowpuppy said:

On 4/4/2015 NoelSeven said:

On 4/4/2015 Ilikeshade said: <ol style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; line-height: 12.8960008621216px;"> <li class="mod" style="line-height: 1.24; margin: 0px; padding: 0px 15px; border: 0px; list-style: none; clear: none;">

John A. McDougall<<a class="image" rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:John_McDougall_in_2013-09-24_11-25.jpg"><<a title="United States" rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States">American physician, Known forTreating degenerative diseases with a low-fat, whole foods, plant-based/vegan dietThe McDougall Plan (1983)http://www.drmcdougall.com <p style="margin: 0.5em 0px; line-height: inherit;">John A. McDougall is an American physician and author whose philosophy is that degenerative disease can be prevented and treated with a low-fat, whole foods, plant-based/vegan diet – especially one based on starches such as potatoes, rice, and corn – which excludes all animal foods and added vegetable oils. Dr. McDougall is of Irish descent.

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I'd also say that is quackery.

I tried the low fat because fat makes you fat/high carb diet. I never felt so sick and so tired! I switch to high protein/low carb and the pounds fell off.

That said I know people who have tried high protein with no success at all. Different strokes for different folks.

I started getting rashes when I just started college. I was encouraged to go on a low fat diet to improve my health. After at least a month of it, I felt awful and lost hair at my hairline. I went to my doctor who told me to get off that crazy diet right away, that everyone needs some fat in their diet. Luckily my hair grew back.

[foundinlv]

On 4/4/2015 NoelSeven said:

On 4/4/2015 Snowpuppy said:

On 4/4/2015 NoelSeven said:

On 4/4/2015 Ilikeshade said: <ol style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; line-height: 12.8960008621216px;"> <li class="mod" style="line-height: 1.24; margin: 0px; padding: 0px 15px; border: 0px; list-style: none; clear: none;">

John A. McDougall<<a class="image" rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:John_McDougall_in_2013-09-24_11-25.jpg"><<a title="United States" rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States">American physician, Known forTreating degenerative diseases with a low-fat, whole foods, plant-based/vegan dietThe McDougall Plan (1983)http://www.drmcdougall.com <p style="margin: 0.5em 0px; line-height: inherit;">John A. McDougall is an American physician and author whose philosophy is that degenerative disease can be prevented and treated with a low-fat, whole foods, plant-based/vegan diet – especially one based on starches such as potatoes, rice, and corn – which excludes all animal foods and added vegetable oils. Dr. McDougall is of Irish descent.

</li> </ol>

I'd also say that is quackery.

I tried the low fat because fat makes you fat/high carb diet. I never felt so sick and so tired! I switch to high protein/low carb and the pounds fell off.

That said I know people who have tried high protein with no success at all. Different strokes for different folks.

I started getting rashes when I just started college. I was encouraged to go on a low fat diet to improve my health. After at least a month of it, I felt awful and lost hair at my hairline. I went to my doctor who told me to get off that crazy diet right away, that everyone needs some fat in their diet. Luckily my hair grew back.

Of course everyone needs fat in their diet, but healthy fats like you obtain from nuts and seeds. I love walnuts, cashews and almonds and also eat pumpkin seeds. But, oil no I do not ingest that.

[NoelSeven]

Older people do not make as much vitamin D as younger people in response to sunlight.

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Because vitamin D occurs naturally in very few foods, some adults may not get enough from their everyday diet. This means that fortified foods and/or vitamin D supplements may be needed by some people:

• People age 50 and older, whose skin cannot make as much vitamin D and/or whose kidneys are less able to convert vitamin D to its active form

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The American Cancer Society

http://www.cancer.org/treatment/treatmentsandsideeffects/complementaryandalternativemedicine/herbsv...

[foundinlv]

On 4/4/2015 NoelSeven said:

Older people do not make as much vitamin D as younger people in response to sunlight.

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Because vitamin D occurs naturally in very few foods, some adults may not get enough from their everyday diet. This means that fortified foods and/or vitamin D supplements may be needed by some people:

• People age 50 and older, whose skin cannot make as much vitamin D and/or whose kidneys are less able to convert vitamin D to its active form

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The American Cancer Society

http://www.cancer.org/treatment/treatmentsandsideeffects/complementaryandalternativemedicine/herbsv...

As the article states, there seems to be no one size that fits all.

[sidsmom]

On 4/4/2015 Ilikeshade said:

On 4/4/2015 NoelSeven said:

On 4/4/2015 Snowpuppy said:

On 4/4/2015 NoelSeven said:

On 4/4/2015 Ilikeshade said: <ol style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; line-height: 12.8960008621216px;"> <li class="mod" style="line-height: 1.24; margin: 0px; padding: 0px 15px; border: 0px; list-style: none; clear: none;">

John A. McDougall<<a class="image" rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:John_McDougall_in_2013-09-24_11-25.jpg"><<a title="United States" rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States">American physician, Known forTreating degenerative diseases with a low-fat, whole foods, plant-based/vegan dietThe McDougall Plan (1983)http://www.drmcdougall.com <p style="margin: 0.5em 0px; line-height: inherit;">John A. McDougall is an American physician and author whose philosophy is that degenerative disease can be prevented and treated with a low-fat, whole foods, plant-based/vegan diet – especially one based on starches such as potatoes, rice, and corn – which excludes all animal foods and added vegetable oils. Dr. McDougall is of Irish descent.

</li> </ol>

I'd also say that is quackery.

I tried the low fat because fat makes you fat/high carb diet. I never felt so sick and so tired! I switch to high protein/low carb and the pounds fell off.

That said I know people who have tried high protein with no success at all. Different strokes for different folks.

I started getting rashes when I just started college. I was encouraged to go on a low fat diet to improve my health. After at least a month of it, I felt awful and lost hair at my hairline. I went to my doctor who told me to get off that crazy diet right away, that everyone needs some fat in their diet. Luckily my hair grew back.

Of course everyone needs fat in their diet, but healthy fats like you obtain from nuts and seeds. I love walnuts, cashews and almonds and also eat pumpkin seeds. But, oil no I do not ingest that.

ilikeshade: You would SOOO get Dr. Esselstyn! He has an amazing lecture on YouTube explaining the endothelium. It's an hour long, but well worth it.

Yes, losing weight & looking good in skinny jeans is nice, but unfortunately health is determined by the quality of our arterial system....endothelium. Eating LFWFPB way of eating naturally heals from the inside....where it counts the most. ALL foods have the macronutrients of Carb/Fat/Protein...yes, even a lowly head of iceberg lettuce is 8% fat!! Even without adding overt fats, we can obtain a healthy amount of fat in our diet.

Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn: Endothelium lecture