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CNN: Not just Reagan: Airports across the US have struggled with air traffic control staffing in recent years, data shows

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Airports around the country have struggled with controller staffing levels for years, according to a CNN review of government data and interviews with aviation experts.

 

The most recent data from the FAA shows that across all airport towers and terminal approach facilities nationwide, only about 70% of staffing targets were filled by fully certified controllers as of September 2023. When controllers in training are included, that rose to about 79%.

 

Some traffic control towers at major airports around the country – including Philadelphia, Orlando, Austin, Albuquerque and Milwaukee – had less than 60% of their staffing targets filled with certified controllers. Reagan Airport had about 63%.      

 

 

Air traffic controllers in the US have been warning about the impact of low staffing levels for years, submitting anonymous reports to NASA’s Aviation Safety Reporting System. At least 10 reports submitted by controllers included concerns about staffing, work schedules or fatigue in the last year alone, the NASA database shows.

 

“We have been short staffed for too many years and it’s creating so many unsafe situations,” one controller in Southern California wrote last year, recounting how a small aircraft requesting assistance could not be helped due to workload issues. “The FAA has created an unsafe environment to work and for the flying public. The controllers’ mental health is deteriorating.”

 

“We are already on forced 6-day work weeks working overtime every week,” another controller in Northern California wrote. “This Leads to Controller fatigue very quickly. We need more staffing.”

 

Self-reported safety incidents by aviation personnel recorded in NASA’s database detail hundreds of incidents since 2015 in which pilots said they were forced to take evasive action to avoid collision with another aircraft or helicopter when trying to land or depart from the country’s busiest airports.

       

In 2023, after a series of close calls at airports around the country, the FAA commissioned a safety review of the national airspace system. An independent team produced a report that found inadequate air-traffic control staffing, combined with outdated equipment and technology, was “rendering the current level of safety unsustainable.”

 

The report added that overtime among air traffic controllers had reached historically high levels and contributed to absences and fatigue.

 

With “fewer eyes on the airspace… the opportunity for mistakes in instruction is multiplied,” the report stated, noting there were about 1,000 fewer fully certified air traffic controllers in August 2023 than in August 2012, despite more complexity in the national air space.

The National Air Traffic Controllers Association, a union, has also been warning about staffing shortages for more than a decade.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
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@Puzzle Piece Please don't ask her to do that so that this whole thread doesn't get pulled.

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I want to live to see tomorrow.

 

Nice try..........

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@Love my grandkids wrote:

@Puzzle Piece Please don't ask her to do that so that this whole thread doesn't get pulled.


 

 

Well, Well 

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@CalminHeart wrote:

 

These plane disasters are sooooo sad. It breaks my heart.

 

I'm not all that surprised though. So many factors go into each one that resulted in the horrible, especially inadequate staffing of air controllers and the firing of the head of the federal department over them. 


@CalminHeart He resigned. He was not fired.

 

I'm surprised some did not know this fact.

 

However further discussion about that issue would be political.

 

 

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@Zoe wrote:

There was also the incident where two planes' touched & clipped their wings at Logan airport in Boston. (CBS is describing it as "clipped" while others are saying "touched" and assessed for damage.)

 

And I believe there was another incident at Seattle where one that was taxi-ing struck the tail of another plane.

 

So...six incidents?


Actually, I think there have been at least 9 known incidents -- with the other three being the incident in Chicago where a plane hit a tug seriously injuring the tug operator, the incident in Charlotte where a tug hit & killed an airline employee on the tarmac, and the one in Houston where the engines caught on fire and passengers evacuated onto the tarmac via slides.

 

Tthat's a lot in ~3 weeks.

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@Kachina624 

 

And...HERE is #4

Published: Feb. 10, 2025 at 2:59 PM MST|Updated: moments ago
 
 
 
 
 

SCOTTSDALE, AZ (AZFamily) — At least one person is dead after two jets collided on the runway at Scottsdale Airport, sources tell Arizona’s Family.

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Jet owned by Mötley Crüe's Vince Neil involved in fatal plane crash at Scottsdale Airport in Arizona

Vince Neil's private jet was coming from Austin, Texas, when it crashed.

 

I heard on the radio this morning the pilot was killed and I think the only passenger on board his plane was his girlfriend who was hurt but survived. He was not on the plane.  The plane it hit was empty.