Re: The Flu Increases Risk Of Heart Attack

Noel7 · ‎03-09-2010

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@Trinity11 and @cherry

Thank you both for your kind comments. I look forward to exchanging ideas with you two all the time. You are both intelligent, kind, knowledgeable, and curious. Curiosity is the foundation of intelligence imo
Thanks @Noel7. I love reading your posts and have learned a lot from you. It is also nice to know someone else who is going through similar things. You have often written something here that really has cheered me up on a rough day. You have a lot of enthusiasm for living and there are times when I haven't told you so this is a good time to do so. I used to be a lot more cheerful and excited about living ......you help me to bring that back.

Oh, my. @Trinity11 That means so much to me. You and I have so much in common, some good, a lot medical which IS no fun.

I just keep going, sometimes it feels like too much, but I try to enjoy what I can.

The first heart attack I had was massive. I did not know what was happening, I thought I had really bad heartburn. Classic, hey? The second heart attack, I thought was costochondritis, but thank goodness I went in anyway. Each one was so different. THAT is why I like to get this kind of information out to others. It's going to help some people to know what to do.

september · ‎03-09-2010

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John, this is not fake news or a media fear story. This is known medical fact and hospitals and cardiologists are already taking precautions.

The CDC is involved in tracking the connection of flu with follow up heart attacks, and hospitals are already taking a preemptive approach.

Trinity and I have already been through it in the hospital with Type B flu where our hearts were monitored and we were given Heparin daily as a precaution.

@Noel7 @hckynut. My husband was hospitalized with type a flu, and what Noel stated, is true. He was also given heparin, and was transferred to the cardiac unit for two days for better monitoring.

He has no history of cardiac problems, but his heart rate was consistently dropping down into the low 40's as a result of the infection.

febe1 · ‎01-22-2012

It's reported one out of every fifteen patients at the doctor's office is for the flu. Many schools have closed. And it is formidable in every state except HI.

Noel7 · ‎03-09-2010

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@hckynut

John, this is not fake news or a media fear story. This is known medical fact and hospitals and cardiologists are already taking precautions.

The CDC is involved in tracking the connection of flu with follow up heart attacks, and hospitals are already taking a preemptive approach.

Trinity and I have already been through it in the hospital with Type B flu where our hearts were monitored and we were given Heparin daily as a precaution.
@Noel7 @hckynut. My husband was hospitalized with type a flu, and what Noel stated, is true. He was also given heparin, and was transferred to the cardiac unit for two days for better monitoring.

He has no history of cardiac problems, but his heart rate was consistently dropping down into the low 40's as a result of the infection.

@september I hope your husband has made a full recovery. That was a lot for him to go through.

Thank you for sharing his experience and adding to the information about preventative treatment for the heart for those who were fighting the flu.

hckynut · ‎03-10-2010

@Trinity11,

As I said in my reply to Noel, my post was meant to add knowledge about the primary predictors of possibly having a heart attack. If you and Noel took it as meaning something negative about her thread, not much I can say that I didn't say in my response to her.

I personally don't see where those already staying home/avoiding their normal activities in their lives, because of their fear of getting the flu, are being helped by knowing "IF" they get the flu they might also have a heart attack. If you feel differently, we disagree on that point.

I read threads on this BB about so many being scared to death they might get the flu. While it should be a concern, I view it as something that might add even more stress to these people's lives. As we both know, "excessive stress" is a risk factor for many health issues. Then these same people read about the flu "possibly" making them more susceptible to a heart attack, and that in some way is suppose to help them?

Yep, my surgery recovery is going great, and I thank you for thoughtfulness in mentioning it.

hckynut(john)

hckynut · ‎03-10-2010

@september

I am sorry to hear your husband was hospitalized with the flu, but I am glad he is getting the care he needs.

I am very familiar with Heparin as I spent a total of 17 days, over 2 rather long hospital stays, with a Heparin IV Drip for my 2 episodes of Pulmonary Embolism. I too was on the Cardiac Floor, but with my 1st PE bout in 2002, I had not yet suffered my 1st heart attack.

Every patient on that Cardiac Floor is monitored 24/7 wearing a multi-lead EKG that is at all times monitored. Heart Attack or no heart attack, that is the standard procedure in all 3 of the hospitals where I spent time on their Cardiac Floor or Wing.

My resting heart rate is always in the mid to lower 40's, even the high 30's when I wake up some mornings. When I was on the Cardiac Floor, they had to change the "alarm code numbers" for me because my heart rate was generally that low unless I was walking my rounds on the floor. They were more concerned with my low Blood Pressure than my low HR.

I wish your husband well, along with you, of course.

hckynut(john)

jubilant · ‎06-10-2010

I know people are concerned about getting the flu. Especially those with compromised immune symstems. I think it is important to talk about keeping our body as strong as we can by eating the best diet you can and trying to boost that immune system. Try to avoid sugar. Also, avoiding crowds is helpful. I have heard if you get one flu in a season you're highly unlikely to get another.

Noel7 · ‎03-09-2010

@hckynut

John, it seems to me you have missed the point completely. Like it or not, the flu is another risk factor and doctors are treating it as such. I have no idea why it obviously bothers you so much, you have always supported KNOWING the risk factors.

Moving right along, I am glad my team supported preventative action, and Trinity and september’s husband’s team, also. We were well taken care of.

Trinity11 · ‎11-16-2014

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@hckynut

John, it seems to me you have missed the point completely. Like it or not, the flu is another risk factor and doctors are treating it as such. I have no idea why it obviously bothers you so much, you have always supported KNOWING the risk factors.

Moving right along, I am glad my team supported preventative action, and Trinity and september’s husband’s team, also. We were well taken care of.

@Noel7......I see absolutely no difference between posting new information about a NEW RISK FACTOR for a heart attack and John's posts about his own risk factors. The flu is now a risk factor for a heart attack. If John is interested in risk factors as he has often posted in the past and now, how is this any different?? And none of your thread was posted to have people worry rather an informative post that may save someone's life if they were to suffer discomfort in their chest. Maybe they would choose not to ignore it thinking it was just from coughing.