On 3/2/2014 Ford1224 said: On 3/2/2014 HisElk said: On 3/2/2014 Ford1224 said: Wish I could believe her. What I have seen on TV is that all farmers are afraid to talk because the meat companies have a strong hold over them. If they talk, their business is over. The meat distributors will blackball them in the meat industry. The goal is to produce the meat as cheaply as possible, period. Her story about how they accompany each animal to slaughter and know their history, and how regulated it all is, is implausible and fictional. IMO.
I'm not saying don't eat beef/chicken/pork/lamb . . . etc. I'm just saying accept what it is and don't try to somehow dignify it. [I say this to society, not personally to the people on this BB.]
Ford1224, hope you don't mind my bolding part of your post. This is so true IMO. It's everyone's choice as to what they eat/don't eat. I abhor factory farming, but I admit to eating fish/seafood twice a week.
I eat seafood as well, HisElk, mostly frozen salmon. However, I do feel that most fish die quickly, the process is not as torturous as it is with livestock. We are carnivores, as are almost all animals. Living things cannot survive without food. We are just lucky that we are at the top of the food chain.
Unfortunately we are not carnivores. "....almost all animals"...cows, horses, gorilla, monkey, goats, sheep...on & on. Our long intestinal tract, no claws or poison allows us to kill our prey..again in & on. Just for the simple fact...man was a TRUE carnivore & you saw road kill, you would stop your car immediately & see that as food. That's what carnivores do. You don't see an outside cat killing a mouse then grabbing his George Foreman grill & spices to cook it up....no, a carnivore will eat flesh raw...right there. CULTURES might be carnivores but HUMAN...nope. Here's a wiki definition:
Characteristics commonly associated with carnivores include organs for capturing and disarticulating prey (teeth and claws serve these functions in many vertebrates) and status as a predator. In truth, these assumptions may be misleading, as some carnivores do not hunt and are scavengers (though most hunting carnivores will scavenge when the opportunity exists). Thus they do not have the characteristics associated with hunting carnivores. Carnivores have comparatively short digestive systems, as they are not required to break down tough cellulose found in plants. Many animals that hunt other animals have evolved eyes that face forward, thus making depth perception possible. This is almost universal among mammalian predators. Other predators, like crocodiles, have sideways facing eyes and hunt by ambush rather than pursuit. Characteristics commonly associated with carnivores include organs for capturing and disarticulating prey (teeth and claws serve these functions in many vertebrates) and status as a predator. In truth, these assumptions may be misleading, as some carnivores do not hunt and are scavengers (though most hunting carnivores will scavenge when the opportunity exists). Thus they do not have the characteristics associated with hunting carnivores. Carnivores have comparatively short digestive systems, as they are not required to break down tough cellulose found in plants. Many animals that hunt other animals have evolved eyes that face forward, thus making depth perception possible. This is almost universal among mammalian predators. Other predators, like crocodiles, have sideways facing eyes and hunt by ambush rather than pursuit.
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