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[faeriemoon]

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@GrailSeeker wrote:

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@tansy wrote:

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@GrailSeeker wrote:

Personally, I find drunks much more repugnant.  I have no sympathy for them.  They kill people in auto crashes and throw their beer cans in my yard.  I know so many people whose parents were alcoholics.  It's very destructive.  I can't believe they still allow people to drink in restaurants. 

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I just find this attitude so sad.  Alcoholics are addicted.  The ads for alcohol are everywhere.  It's hard to go into a restaurant without seeing a fully stocked bar.  We don't know how to help addicts.  People need help, not scorn.

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Tansy, my point is that it is now quite fashionable to denigrate smokers.  It is a legal product, but smokers have been run out and restricted by the same people who drink and smoke marijuana, who somehow think that their sh** don't stink..  Its "that"very hypocritical, holier than thou attitude by others that I find sad.  Tobacco, regardless of its health risks, is the original cash crop that was integral to the founding of this country. It is legal, and smokers are no worse people than drinkers or prescription addicts.  But its OK to comment on how rude "they" are.

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Also a ridiculous reason to stand up for smoking.

[GrailSeeker]

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@faeriemoon wrote:

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@GrailSeeker wrote:

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@tansy wrote:

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@GrailSeeker wrote:

Personally, I find drunks much more repugnant.  I have no sympathy for them.  They kill people in auto crashes and throw their beer cans in my yard.  I know so many people whose parents were alcoholics.  It's very destructive.  I can't believe they still allow people to drink in restaurants. 

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I just find this attitude so sad.  Alcoholics are addicted.  The ads for alcohol are everywhere.  It's hard to go into a restaurant without seeing a fully stocked bar.  We don't know how to help addicts.  People need help, not scorn.

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Tansy, my point is that it is now quite fashionable to denigrate smokers.  It is a legal product, but smokers have been run out and restricted by the same people who drink and smoke marijuana, who somehow think that their sh** don't stink..  Its "that"very hypocritical, holier than thou attitude by others that I find sad.  Tobacco, regardless of its health risks, is the original cash crop that was integral to the founding of this country. It is legal, and smokers are no worse people than drinkers or prescription addicts.  But its OK to comment on how rude "they" are.

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Also a ridiculous reason to stand up for smoking.

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Just a statement of fact, not a ridiculous reason to stand up for smoking - but people do have that right to the use of a legal product if they want to.

[Hoovermom]

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@sunshine45 wrote:

i still see quite a few friends and family and strangers who smoke.......cigarettes, cigars, mj, and hookah. there are quite a lot of hookah bars and cigar bars that have popped up in our area over the past 7 or 8 years. just because they smoke doesnt stop me from inviting them into my car, my home, my work. my s/o smokes and i am pretty sure he will NEVER quit. it would never stop me from being around him or from loving him. the people i am close with do not litter as far as i can see AND they go outside to smoke.

our condo complex at the beach requires you to smoke only in your individual units, however, with the system they have OR if people leave their balcony doors open, it is easy to smell the smoke......of all types.

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Absolutely.  They don't have leprosy just a "hobby" like others who drink, etc. do.  

[Lipstickdiva]

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@HLP wrote:

Nothing like non smokers bitching about smokers. I don't smoke nor either do I criiticize people who do. I see alot of over weight people should I criticize them for having a habit of over eating? and that too can kill you. Also have you ever seen a party on tv where they are having wine or beer? Have you ever seen a person bleed out from sclerosis of the liver from drinking? I have. whoa I'm sure that would really disgust you. Please. list us your bad habits? Let everyone live their life, no PC's on here. I come on here for knowledge, not opinions. Thank you.

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Oh boy.  You might want to visit another board. This board is for opinions.  You might not like them or agree with them but that's what this is for.

For the record, my father died of cirrohsis of the liver from drinking. 

[QueenDanceALot]

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@Hoovermom wrote:

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@sunshine45 wrote:

i still see quite a few friends and family and strangers who smoke.......cigarettes, cigars, mj, and hookah. there are quite a lot of hookah bars and cigar bars that have popped up in our area over the past 7 or 8 years. just because they smoke doesnt stop me from inviting them into my car, my home, my work. my s/o smokes and i am pretty sure he will NEVER quit. it would never stop me from being around him or from loving him. the people i am close with do not litter as far as i can see AND they go outside to smoke.

our condo complex at the beach requires you to smoke only in your individual units, however, with the system they have OR if people leave their balcony doors open, it is easy to smell the smoke......of all types.

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Absolutely.  They don't have leprosy just a "hobby" like others who drink, etc. do.  

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Stamp collecting is a hobby.  Model building is a hobby.  Kite flying is a hobby. Smoking is not a hobby.  It is an activitiy that endangers the health and lives of both the smoker and those in their environment.  

[QueenDanceALot]

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@Lipstickdiva wrote:

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@HLP wrote:

Nothing like non smokers bitching about smokers. I don't smoke nor either do I criiticize people who do. I see alot of over weight people should I criticize them for having a habit of over eating? and that too can kill you. Also have you ever seen a party on tv where they are having wine or beer? Have you ever seen a person bleed out from sclerosis of the liver from drinking? I have. whoa I'm sure that would really disgust you. Please. list us your bad habits? Let everyone live their life, no PC's on here. I come on here for knowledge, not opinions. Thank you.

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Oh boy.  You might want to visit another board. This board is for opinions.  You might not like them or agree with them but that's what this is for.

For the record, my father died of cirrohsis of the liver from drinking. 

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And both of my parents died from diseases brought on by their cigarette smoking.

We can have facts AND opinions on this board.  Cigarettes kill people.  That's a fact.  

[Cakers3]

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@GrailSeeker wrote:

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@tansy wrote:

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@GrailSeeker wrote:

Personally, I find drunks much more repugnant.  I have no sympathy for them.  They kill people in auto crashes and throw their beer cans in my yard.  I know so many people whose parents were alcoholics.  It's very destructive.  I can't believe they still allow people to drink in restaurants. 

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I just find this attitude so sad.  Alcoholics are addicted.  The ads for alcohol are everywhere.  It's hard to go into a restaurant without seeing a fully stocked bar.  We don't know how to help addicts.  People need help, not scorn.

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Tansy, my point is that it is now quite fashionable to denigrate smokers.  It is a legal product, but smokers have been run out and restricted by the same people who drink and smoke marijuana, who somehow think that their sh** don't stink..  Its "that"very hypocritical, holier than thou attitude by others that I find sad.  Tobacco, regardless of its health risks, is the original cash crop that was integral to the founding of this country. It is legal, and smokers are no worse people than drinkers or prescription addicts.  But its OK to comment on how rude "they" are.

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@GrailSeekerAnd caused a boom in increased slave labor.

We know about tobacco as the cash crop; but we have since learned the health effects of smoking/chewing tobacco.  One doesn't justify the harmful effects it has caused TODAY and especially the lies/deception/ of the tobacco industry.

Thanks, Mr. Rolf.

[Moonchilde]

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@HLP wrote:

Nothing like non smokers bitching about smokers. I don't smoke nor either do I criiticize people who do. I see alot of over weight people should I criticize them for having a habit of over eating? and that too can kill you. Also have you ever seen a party on tv where they are having wine or beer? Have you ever seen a person bleed out from sclerosis of the liver from drinking? I have. whoa I'm sure that would really disgust you. Please. list us your bad habits? Let everyone live their life, no PC's on here. I come on here for knowledge, not opinions. Thank you.

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"I come on here for knowledge, not opinion."

WHY? This is a discussion forum. Discussions are give-and-take, back and forth of opinions. That's why discussion forums are created. There are opinions in the cosmetics, jewelry and fashion forums as well - very heated ones.

You cannot dictate that everyone you encounter here must see things exactly as you do in all ways. Not going to happen. Get used to it.

Your ignorance shows in believing that all overweight people simply must be overeating, there couldn't possibly be any other reason for their weight. Just not true and never has been.

Nor is every drinker, even a heavy drinker, automatically public falling-down drunks who get behind the wheel drunk every day.

You're entirely missing the point that this thread is largely about rude and inconsiderate smokers, not all smokers.

Thank you.

[Cakers3]

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@QueenDanceALot wrote:

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@Hoovermom wrote:

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@sunshine45 wrote:

i still see quite a few friends and family and strangers who smoke.......cigarettes, cigars, mj, and hookah. there are quite a lot of hookah bars and cigar bars that have popped up in our area over the past 7 or 8 years. just because they smoke doesnt stop me from inviting them into my car, my home, my work. my s/o smokes and i am pretty sure he will NEVER quit. it would never stop me from being around him or from loving him. the people i am close with do not litter as far as i can see AND they go outside to smoke.

our condo complex at the beach requires you to smoke only in your individual units, however, with the system they have OR if people leave their balcony doors open, it is easy to smell the smoke......of all types.

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Absolutely.  They don't have leprosy just a "hobby" like others who drink, etc. do.  

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Stamp collecting is a hobby.  Model building is a hobby.  Kite flying is a hobby. Smoking is not a hobby.  It is an activitiy that endangers the health and lives of both the smoker and those in their environment.  

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@QueenDanceALot  Remember the old job applications that asked what your interests/hobbies/activities were?

"Smoking-it's my favorite hobby."  ROTFL

[Hoovermom]

Pastime/hobby, all the same thing.