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[YorkieonmyPillow]

I have no idea why FB didn't delete the photo, but the fact is, she put it on there herself.

If she hadn't put it on there, it wouldn't have been there to be seen...I don't know why in the world she did that unless she wanted to be "stopped" and no one got to her in time.

[chrystaltree]

I don't know how long it should have taken FB to delete it but the sad fact is that the woman chose to hurt and shock her followers.  That's what SHE wanted.  Many disrurbed people use suicide to hurt the people are around them and it seems like that was the case here.  They know it but in their grief, it's easier to blame FB.  Which is ok.  

[Warrior2022]

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@KingstonsMom wrote:

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@sfnative wrote:

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@Equuleus wrote:

Why is it FB's fault?

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@Equuleus

This is a no-brainer:

A Facebook Admin/Moderator should have yanked not only the photo, but the entire entry.  They do so all the time.  In this case, an Admin/Moderator should have yanked it for the following reasons:

1.   This will leave them open to a law suit by the decedant's family.  It can probably be proved in court that she was not in her right mind, when she posted on FB, followed by the act of suicide.  (Facebook - gross act of negligence.)

2.  Having allowed the image and post to remain has caused unbelievable grief and angst to this woman's children and immediate family.  (This tells us a great deal about the FB P&P, which clearly amount to a lack of "heart" within the organization.  I can just see the 20 and 30-somethings sitting in their cubicles snickering.)

3.  Because the entry wasn't removed by a FB moderator, FB advertisers and users are questioning their relationship with FB.  (This is the best thing that can happen.  I truly hope FB loses advertisers and users due to this gross act of negligence.)

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@sfnative

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Not really.  It is very sad and I feel for the family.  But the mother agreed to terms and conditions.  The mother is responsible.  Be responsible for your own actions.

[Mominohio]

This may be cold, but honestly, the personal responsibility of this woman needs to be addressed first. She did this to her friends her family and herself. She chose to make it public and post it. 

Of course we all think FB should have responded sooner and gotten it down, And yes it is horrible her friends and family had to see and deal with it. But FB didn't do it, the woman did. I'm sure they (FB) had many other irons in the fire during that time period and for whatever reason didn't get the job done or done in a respectable time frame. But they wouldn't have had to deal with it at all, had the woman not posted it in the first place. 

I hold a very unpopular view of suicide, but there is a level of personal responsibility involved in the taking of one's own life, and the manner in which it is done, and now displayed for others to see. FB is not the primary entity to shoulder the blame for this. Yes, they should have gotten it down sooner, but I'm sure it is more than a full time job to go around and clean up all these messes other people are making on FB.

Personal responsibility.

[Vivian]

Several years ago, I joined Facebook. It took 24 hours to realize that was a mistake. I left and deactivated my account. One of my children was addicted to it for awhile and I worried about her posting so much personal information. She assured me it was all protected. I knew better. Facebook has been used for some of the most nefarious purposes and should be held accountable. And then there’s the PayPal story where they wrote to a dead woman with all sorts of threats about her account.They started their communication to her with something like, «Dear...We hear you are deceased.»

[Yahooey]

I feel bad for the woman's family but she bares the responsbility for the pain they are going through and not FB. I don't belong to FB, never have. 

FB is probably inundated with all sorts of requests to bring a post down - this story made the news but I'm sure it happens more than we realize.

[MalteseMomma]

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@KingstonsMom wrote:

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@MalteseMomma wrote:

Sorry for the faimly but It is her own fault not FB  imo

She most likely wanted everyone to see it or someone to stop her.Who knows but FB is NOT to blame for her picture being there......sadly to say......she is!!!!!!  imo

Every family has jobs to do they do not like after a death......blameing FB is NOT one of them!!! Obivously the family was not too close with her ,or they would have been aware  she had problems and kept a closer loving eye on her....

Sometimes FB is the only "friend" someone has!!!!....imo!

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@MalteseMomma

IMO, regardless of the reason the victim posted the video, would it have killed FB to delete the video of her preparing to hang herself, after over 200 requests from family, friends and the public, out of respect?

I guess I just don't get this FB obsession.....my bad.

ETA: Re: the bolded part of your post above, my closest brother committed suicide not long ago and he had no history of depression or mental illness and we talked at least once a day (usually more), even though we lived on opposite coasts (free long distance) and there was never a sign. 

So your assumption is way off base and insulting, to be honest.

Sometimes it's best to not make general statements about something you have no experience with, just a thought

@KingstonsMom

Just for your info..............

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 I am  a 2 x suciede surviver.......

MY OWN Suciede in fact!!! 

My family were the last people to listen to me when I told them I was "this close to suciede"  because of something I had gotten myself into by mistake.i told my family over and over,"I am suciede prone,you know that!!  Still they stayed silent and offered no help!  Actually they left me alone...........

Only by the grace of 3 people ( not strangers,I knew them  but they were not close friends)  on FB, I am here now to tell about it!!!!  They helped me hang in through a month of darkness.When my family just  quietly stayed away and left me in it, even though I told them how I was feeling!

...and you know what????, It all happened on FB.........

So I know EXACTLY what I am talking about!!!!!!!

I find your chastizing me, insulting and thoughtless,and crude!!!!!

[KingstonsMom]

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@MalteseMomma wrote:

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@KingstonsMom wrote:

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@MalteseMomma wrote:

Sorry for the faimly but It is her own fault not FB  imo

She most likely wanted everyone to see it or someone to stop her.Who knows but FB is NOT to blame for her picture being there......sadly to say......she is!!!!!!  imo

Every family has jobs to do they do not like after a death......blameing FB is NOT one of them!!! Obivously the family was not too close with her ,or they would have been aware  she had problems and kept a closer loving eye on her....

Sometimes FB is the only "friend" someone has!!!!....imo!

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@MalteseMomma

IMO, regardless of the reason the victim posted the video, would it have killed FB to delete the video of her preparing to hang herself, after over 200 requests from family, friends and the public, out of respect?

I guess I just don't get this FB obsession.....my bad.

ETA: Re: the bolded part of your post above, my closest brother committed suicide not long ago and he had no history of depression or mental illness and we talked at least once a day (usually more), even though we lived on opposite coasts (free long distance) and there was never a sign. 

So your assumption is way off base and insulting, to be honest.

Sometimes it's best to not make general statements about something you have no experience with, just a thought

@KingstonsMom

Just for your info..............

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 I am  a 2 x suciede surviver.......

MY OWN Suciede in fact!!! 

My family were the last people to listen to me when I told them I was "this close to suciede"  because of something I had gotten myself into by mistake.

Only by the grace of 3 people ( not strangers) on FB, I am here now to tell about it!!!!  They helped me hang in through days of darkness.When my family just  quietly stayed away and left me in it,even though i told them how I was feeling!

So I know what I am talking about!!!!!!!

I find your chastizing insulting and thoughtless,and crude!!!!!

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@MalteseMomma

The BIG difference in our 2 situations is that my brother never reached out or indicated that there was a 'problem' in his life, that would indicate he could be suicidal.

In your case (according to your post), you reached out to family and informed them of your mental state at the time and they did nothing to help you, but others did.

Thank goodness for that, but you're comparing 2 different situations, IMO 

My post was not meant to be "chastizing insulting and thoughtless,and crude!!!!! "

But if you CHOOSE to see it that way, so be it, I can't change that.

[bikerbabe]

My heart goes out to anyone who has experienced the pain of depression and suicide. Sometimes family do not want to see what is going on because they don’t know how to deal with it. Sometimes individuals seek help and sadly it is still not enough.

There are positive and negative aspects to social media sites like Facebook. Education and greater awareness is a good thing. Unfortunately there is also a darker side. People have been known to post videos and photos of graphic violence and attacks. Sadly, some have also posted photos of their own suicide. While Facebook is not responsible for the choices that members make in the personal lives, they are responsible for policing the content that is uploaded for all to view. We all know they are under fire recently for their handling of these types of issues.

A fellow nursing student killed himself in a very public way last year. His family knew he was troubled. He did seek some level of help but clearly it was not enough. His very public death still haunts some of his former classmates and instructors.

[Lion]

According to the full article, her family and friends were  aware of her lifelong problems with severe depression and anxiety.

There's no indication that her family didn't care or pulled away from her.  Just the opposite, it sounded like they loved her very much.

Family and friends can only do so much.  No matter how much love and support they give, they can't prevent someone from committing suicide if s/he decides to do so.