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[Spurt]

Mark Zukerberg is worth 77.6 BILLION certainly he can affordto run his Facebook company better than this!!!.......

He can set up a special task force to handle situations like this!!!  

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@Equuleus wrote:

Why is it FB's fault?

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@Equuleus

did you see this!!!

The family said they contacted Facebook about the image and more than 200 of Elarabi's friends reported it to administrators, but the company did not take it down.

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@Marp wrote:

How many have taken the time to set up what is to be done with their FB account after they have passed? 

Your Legacy Contact

A legacy contact is someone you choose to manage your account after you pass away. They'll be able to do things like pin a post on your timeline, respond to new friend requests and update your profile picture. They won't post as you or see your messages. Learn more.

We'll send your legacy contact an email explaining what this means. You'll also have the option to send them a message right away. They won't be notified again until your account is memorialized.

Account Deletion

You've requested to have your account permanently deleted after death. Once someone lets us know you've passed away, no one will be able to see your profile again. If you want friends and family to be able to visit your profile and share memories in the future, you can choose to

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Annual Reminder

We'll send you a notification once a year to check that your legacy contact settings are how you want them. If you prefer, you can

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@Marp

Someone that has mental issues like this case, is not going to be one that takes the time to do this, they are not in their right mind to begin with.....

[Marp]

@Spurt, agreed but the point of my post is that people should take care of this detail while they are able to.

Regardless of options chosen someone would have to notify FB about the death or the account remains active.

Of course assuring that a trusted someone has the account password and knowledge of any security information that may be needed is also a consideration.

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@Mominohio wrote:

This may be cold, but honestly, the personal responsibility of this woman needs to be addressed first. She did this to her friends her family and herself. She chose to make it public and post it. 

Of course we all think FB should have responded sooner and gotten it down, And yes it is horrible her friends and family had to see and deal with it. But FB didn't do it, the woman did. I'm sure they (FB) had many other irons in the fire during that time period and for whatever reason didn't get the job done or done in a respectable time frame. But they wouldn't have had to deal with it at all, had the woman not posted it in the first place. 

I hold a very unpopular view of suicide, but there is a level of personal responsibility involved in the taking of one's own life, and the manner in which it is done, and now displayed for others to see. FB is not the primary entity to shoulder the blame for this. Yes, they should have gotten it down sooner, but I'm sure it is more than a full time job to go around and clean up all these messes other people are making on FB.

Personal responsibility.

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@Mominohio

What's aggravating is that FB posts that get the attention of the national news get deleted by FB IMMEDIATELY!! For example, someone was complaining about Facebook deleting a post about a topic that's in the news, there was no profanity involved, just facts yet Facebook removed it IMMEDIATELY!!! ....Just saying FB seems selective in their priorities and posts to take action on........I guess getting hauled before Congress makes a difference on them keeping a close eye on political stuff....but not other posts that would be disturbing to family/friends....200 complaints would seem to get their attention but didnt.....

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@bikerbabe wrote:
My heart goes out to anyone who has experienced the pain of depression and suicide. Sometimes family do not want to see what is going on because they don’t know how to deal with it. Sometimes individuals seek help and sadly it is still not enough.

There are positive and negative aspects to social media sites like Facebook. Education and greater awareness is a good thing. Unfortunately there is also a darker side. People have been known to post videos and photos of graphic violence and attacks. Sadly, some have also posted photos of their own suicide. While Facebook is not responsible for the choices that members make in the personal lives, they are responsible for policing the content that is uploaded for all to view. We all know they are under fire recently for their handling of these types of issues.

A fellow nursing student killed himself in a very public way last year. His family knew he was troubled. He did seek some level of help but clearly it was not enough. His very public death still haunts some of his former classmates and instructors.

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@bikerbabe

WELL SAID!

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@NYC Susan wrote:

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@hsawaknow wrote:

Some people give away all their power to Facebook and dont even realize it. I personally hate F/B

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There are also a lot of people who understand Facebook, are educated about how it works, know how to adjust their settings, what to post, what not to post, etc.  And have good, positive experiences with it all the time.

I see so many complaints about Facebook here that have absolutely nothing to do with Facebook itself - It's the people who use it, the people they chose as friends, their settings, etc. that are the direct cause of so many rants against Facebook.  Nothing on the internet is totally safe and totally private.  Not here, not there.  All any of us can do is be smart about what we use and how we use it.  Even here on the QVC forums.

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@NYC Susan

I understand all about the Facebook settings and know how it works, I took the time to educate myself.  The only reason I have a Facebook Account is that it's required by my Employer so us work at home folks can interact and conduct live meetings etc.  And also a non-profit that I volunteer for requires it too. But even with the toughest settings I still get ads, spam and qwapp even though Mark's Legal Dept and Marketing Group put out these commercials telling us he understands we want to see those touching moments from family/friends (and has a Facebook Page in the background with folks hugging a new baby) and we hear how he has imposed new restrictions on ads and privacy ...Well as they say, "the proofs in the pudding", but I haven't seen any difference.....

What and how people use Facebook creates the entity it which it has become in society....

And Facebook fans must step back a moment and step away from their rose colored Facebook Pages and come to the realization that there are negative aspects to this form of social media--

Of course there are the privacy and security issues

Also lost time in productivity in offices and work places, as employees chose to work on their Facebook Pages instead of what they are paid to do....

And there is definitely an addictive aspect for SOME!!!.......

And less real time talking, and more time posting, which has impacted people's face to face communication skills (studies have shown this time and time again).....

And in a work conference I attended, a speaker talked about Facebook and self esteem and self confidence issues caused by people not feeling their lives didn't live up to the standards set by the Facebook Pages of their family, friends, and co-workers....which led cases of depression.  She even talked about the "make believe" Facebook World, and posting her own Facebook Photo while on vacation, oh yes, the PERFECT family, when a few minutes before the photo was taken they were all arguing and fighting with one another....

YES, there are good points and it does allow people to connect with friends/family afar.....BUT bad points too.... 

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@Marp wrote:

@Spurt, agreed but the point of my post is that people should take care of this detail while they are able to.

Regardless of options chosen someone would have to notify FB about the death or the account remains active.

Of course assuring that a trusted someone has the account password and knowledge of any security information that may be needed is also a consideration.

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@Marp

Yes, you make a point and it is a good idea that an Executor of an Estate or family member/friend has a way to take care of the situation when a person has passed away.

[Calgal2too]

This is a tricky situation, to say the least.

Many people view suicide as the ultimate act of selfishness.  My view on that is different.  I have never known anyone who committed suicide (that I know of), but I can't imagine the depths of dispair a person must experience, to think that the world would be better off without them, and that this is a viable solution.  Obviously, it's not, and that why applying logic here is probably a big mistake.

To me, to call suicide a selfish act is, itself, selfish. 

I agree with those that said that FB should have removed the post, the instant it was brought to their attention.  It takes only a few keystrokes, and they have an entire team devoted to viewing/vetting 'sensitive' material, so, based on what I've read here (and that's all I know), yes, they handled it poorly.

It is confusing to me why anyone would reach out to others about their own impending suicide, via FB, but, again, thinking logically probably isn't the way to approach this.

My thoughts go out to the family.  It's sad and disappointing that they had to deal with this nonsense, on top of everything else.

[NYC Susan]

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@Spurt wrote:

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@NYC Susan wrote:

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@hsawaknow wrote:

Some people give away all their power to Facebook and dont even realize it. I personally hate F/B

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There are also a lot of people who understand Facebook, are educated about how it works, know how to adjust their settings, what to post, what not to post, etc.  And have good, positive experiences with it all the time.

I see so many complaints about Facebook here that have absolutely nothing to do with Facebook itself - It's the people who use it, the people they chose as friends, their settings, etc. that are the direct cause of so many rants against Facebook.  Nothing on the internet is totally safe and totally private.  Not here, not there.  All any of us can do is be smart about what we use and how we use it.  Even here on the QVC forums.

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@NYC Susan

I understand all about the Facebook settings and know how it works, I took the time to educate myself.  The only reason I have a Facebook Account is that it's required by my Employer so us work at home folks can interact and conduct live meetings etc.  And also a non-profit that I volunteer for requires it too. But even with the toughest settings I still get ads, spam and qwapp even though Mark's Legal Dept and Marketing Group put out these commercials telling us he understands we want to see those touching moments from family/friends (and has a Facebook Page in the background with folks hugging a new baby) and we hear how he has imposed new restrictions on ads and privacy ...Well as they say, "the proofs in the pudding", but I haven't seen any difference.....

What and how people use Facebook creates the entity it which it has become in society....

And Facebook fans must step back a moment and step away from their rose colored Facebook Pages and come to the realization that there are negative aspects to this form of social media--

Of course there are the privacy and security issues

Also lost time in productivity in offices and work places, as employees chose to work on their Facebook Pages instead of what they are paid to do....

And there is definitely an addictive aspect for SOME!!!.......

And less real time talking, and more time posting, which has impacted people's face to face communication skills (studies have shown this time and time again).....

And in a work conference I attended, a speaker talked about Facebook and self esteem and self confidence issues caused by people not feeling their lives didn't live up to the standards set by the Facebook Pages of their family, friends, and co-workers....which led cases of depression.  She even talked about the "make believe" Facebook World, and posting her own Facebook Photo while on vacation, oh yes, the PERFECT family, when a few minutes before the photo was taken they were all arguing and fighting with one another....

YES, there are good points and it does allow people to connect with friends/family afar.....BUT bad points too.... 

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Of course there are both positive and negative aspects.   I never said it was perfect, and I think most Facebook users are well aware of that too.  IMO if it's used responsibly, the good far outweighs the bad.  That's how it's been for me for years.  Everyone is free to make their own choice whether they want to use it and how they want to use it.