Re: Sentencing in Rust Movie Set Death

lgfan · ‎10-19-2012

@colleena wrote:
@Kachina624 Sounds to me that that movie shoot was a bottom of the barrel production where anything/everything was allowed. In my opinion, Baldwin was in charge so should be held responsible.

I agree with you. It was Baldwin's responsibility as a producer to better monitor the film set. It was a low budget movie. They were trying to save money. In the long run it cost them more than if they would have spent more money in hiring an experienced armorer.

beckyb1012 · ‎03-09-2010

@Love to Run wrote:
@mrshckynut wrote:
took 4 hand gun training classes 2 hours long 2 main points stessed over mainy times each class

always assume a gun is loaded unless you looked to be sure

do not ever point at anyone unless you plan to shoot

mrshckynut

@mrshckynut Looking to be sure of what? Blanks are virtually indistinguishable from live rounds.

First licensed to carry here in Texas in 2000 and you never point a gun at anyone and yes @mrshckynut always assume the gun is loaded and ready to fire.

"Live frugally, but love extravagantly."

Allthingsgirly67 · ‎03-09-2010

I too think the armorer is at fault as she is first to check it before it gets handed it to anyone else. And to be fair if I was an actor handed said gun I really wouldn’t know wher or what to look for. That’s why they have the armorer. I also don’t understand why in this day and age with technology they don’t use special and sound effects.

Venezia · ‎03-09-2010

@beckyb1012 wrote:

First licensed to carry here in Texas in 2000 and you never point a gun at anyone and yes @mrshckynut always assume the gun is loaded and ready to fire.

@beckyb1012 - So on a movie set, say you're filming the "Gunfight at the OK Corral" - the actors facing off are supposed to point their prop guns where?

At the sky? At the ground? It's a movie set; fiction; make-believe. Live rounds have no business being there and the one responsible for bringing them onto the set, in this case, was Gutierrez-Reed. No one else. She didn't seem to take the job very seriously; unfortunate when peoples' lives were at stake.

"" A little learning is a dangerous thing."-Alexander Pope

mrshckynut · ‎06-19-2011

@Love to Run wrote:
@mrshckynut wrote:
took 4 hand gun training classes 2 hours long 2 main points stessed over mainy times each class

always assume a gun is loaded unless you looked to be sure

do not ever point at anyone unless you plan to shoot

mrshckynut

@mrshckynut Looking to be sure of what? Blanks are virtually indistinguishable from live rounds.

@Love to Run shown in training classes several times that blanks do not have a projectile in the end of the casing in a revolver that can easily be seen

mrshckynut

ROMARY · ‎04-28-2010

I don't know why they can't or don't use fake guns.

With all of the sound and visual effects now-a-days, no need to use real guns.

Safety first.

'More or less', 'Right or wrong', 'In general', and 'Just thinking out loud ' (as usual).

Ronettes · ‎12-13-2022

@Posh Poodle wrote:
@Venezia

Sorry, not buying it.
Baldwin has been in the business long enough to know.
Gun lesson 101 to you: anytime you hold a weapon, you ALWAYS assume it's loaded.
No excuses!!!
You cannot deflect your own responsibility onto someone else.
He held the gun.
He pointed the pistol.
He pulled the trigger.
He took a life.

Exactly - And then to claim he did not pull the trigger.

Anything to avoid blame.

And you do not point a gun at anyone, ever. Unless you intend to use it.

Ronettes · ‎12-13-2022

@Posh Poodle wrote:

Thank you for seeing my point. He would have checked that weapon probably 10 times.
Apparently because I think Baldwin should be held accountable for killing someone I have a vindetta @KingstonMom against him. What backwards thinking.

If Baldwin had injured someone in one of our families, we would feel that he should also be held accountable.

No one is disputing the arms handler being responsible, but it went further than her part in this murder.

Ronettes · ‎12-13-2022

Interesting that charges against Baldwin were initially dropped, pending investigation of the gun for malfunction.

Then after an FBI report concluded that the trigger had to have been pulled in order for the gun to go off, prosecutors refiled charges against the 65-year-old actor in January 2024.

Posh Poodle · ‎06-27-2011

@Ronettes I read a similar article that you're referencing. The FBI couldn't get the trigger to "act by itself" until the gun had been broken into 2-3 pieces after being hit by a mallet. Baldwin had to have pulled it.

I also thought as you did: What if my loved one were the victim instead? I'd use every resource available to me to go after any and all responsible, criminally and civilly.

@Ronettes wrote:
Interesting that charges against Baldwin were initially dropped, pending investigation of the gun for malfunction.
Then after an FBI report concluded that the trigger had to have been pulled in order for the gun to go off, prosecutors refiled charges against the 65-year-old actor in January 2024.