Re: Rising Sea Levels-From NOAA 2021

gardenman · ‎03-09-2010

@decaf wrote:
@Cakers3I'm not a scientist but I don't need to be to know we have a problem.

By chance, @gardenman I just started reading another thread about buying a new phone (I need one) where you say you" live in southwest New Jersey, AS FAR FROM THE OCEAN AS YOU CAN POSSIBLY GET IN S. JERSEY."
I got the impression you live very close to the ocean from your posts here.

I stand by my earlier comments.

Far from the ocean is very, very close ot the Delaware River and Delaware Bay. New Jersey is technically a peninsula with water on three sides. To the east you have the ocean. To the west the river. To the south, the bay. I can see both the river and bay out of the back windows of my house. (In the wintertime anyway when the leaves are off the trees. Not so much in the summer.) The Salem river runs directly across the street from my house. There used to be a floating dock with a boardwalk leading to it that led out into the Salem River where I spent most of my summers fishing. I've fished in the Mannington Meadows most of my younger life.

I live closer to "rising sea water" than pretty much anyone else here. The Mannington Meadow is about fifty-ish feet from my front door. Gve or take a bit. I've never measured it. There's my relatively narrow front yard, the street, then about six feet of dry land on the other side of the street, then the meadow. At most it's a hundred feet away. I wouldn't even say a hundred feet though.

If earlier predictions of "rising sea levels" had been true, I'd be typing this in deep water. I'm not. The ocean, bay, and river are all connected. Rising water in one means rising water in all. I'm in river/bay territory. There's been no major change in the levels of the river, bay, or meadows in my lifetime. If there had been, I'd be underwater.

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decaf · ‎05-13-2021

@Cakers3 It's easier to deny(or ignore) than to deal. Maybe just a human fault not to care unless/until it causes you a problem.

Like this- I live an hour or so from Surfside and this past week has exposed so many issues related to climate my head is spinning. And those issues are going to have more far reaching effects (economical) than just S. Florida.

In difficut times like this I still go back to the famous saying "If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem". Sounds silly,I know.

Cakers3 · ‎06-17-2015

@hckynut wrote:
@Drythe wrote:
@agb80 wrote:
No matter what the U.S. does it will be negated by India and China. Not much we can do about that.

@agb80

As the ‘leading industrial’ nation,
I think we should lead the way, rather than find/make excuses.

Hi there @Drythe

Last I heard the United States is leading the way. Excuses? That would be China, waiting till 2036, and India?

But really, I was here for the Ice Age that wasn't, and now the Glaciers are melting?

Why the terminology of Ice Age and Global Warming, now switched to Climate Change?

I'm thinking because the climate has been changing for centuries, and that covers the whole sphere.

hckynut

@hckynut I'm not sure why you are saying you were here for the ice age that wasn't.

You are assuming the ice age was supposed to happen in your lifetime, and that was never submitted by anyone, including TIME magazine.

People are truly misinterpreting what an ice age is all about.

"" Compassion is a verb."-Thich Nhat Hanh

Cakers3 · ‎06-17-2015

@decaf wrote:
@Cakers3 It's easier to deny(or ignore) than to deal. Maybe just a human fault not to care unless/until it causes you a problem.
Like this- I live an hour or so from Surfside and this past week has exposed so many issues related to climate my head is spinning. And those issues are going to have more far reaching effects (economical) than just S. Florida.
In difficut times like this I still go back to the famous saying "If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem". Sounds silly,I know.

@decafNot silly at all.

We have pros/cons on everything from EV's to wind turbines to recycling to pipelines and on and on it goes.

One issue never stands alone; everything has a return and complicates all others.

"" Compassion is a verb."-Thich Nhat Hanh

decaf · ‎05-13-2021

@Cakers3 wrote:
@decaf wrote:
@Cakers3 It's easier to deny(or ignore) than to deal. Maybe just a human fault not to care unless/until it causes you a problem.
Like this- I live an hour or so from Surfside and this past week has exposed so many issues related to climate my head is spinning. And those issues are going to have more far reaching effects (economical) than just S. Florida.
In difficut times like this I still go back to the famous saying "If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem". Sounds silly,I know.
@decafNot silly at all.

We have pros/cons on everything from EV's to wind turbines to recycling to pipelines and on and on it goes.

One issue never stands alone; everything has a return and complicates all others.

@Cakers3 A shame researchers and scientists are so underrated.

Cakers3 · ‎06-17-2015

Regardless of the estimated date of 2100-it won't happen overnight.

Through the next decades the effects will be felt-whether slightly or intensely.

I already stated-everything has a return and no issue stands alone.

People do not have to care; nobody is forcing anyone to do so.

"" Compassion is a verb."-Thich Nhat Hanh

Drythe · ‎07-09-2011

@agb80 wrote:
@Drythe wrote:
@agb80 wrote:
No matter what the U.S. does it will be negated by India and China. Not much we can do about that.

@agb80

As the ‘leading industrial’ nation,
I think we should lead the way, rather than find/make excuses.

@Drythe I agree but not at the expense of tens of thousands of jobs that disappeared due to foolish ideology.

@agb80

Don’t know to what you are referring. I have no idea as to the ‘foolishness of your ideology’. I do know you have no hesitation to disparage mine, with a total lack of facts.

It clear with whom an ‘exchange of ideas’ is merely an opportunity to play one-up and name call.

Such holds no interest for me.

"Animals are not my whole world, but they have made my world whole" ~ Roger Caras

candyagain · ‎04-11-2010

@Cakers3 wrote:
The warming of the earth's atmosphere does lead to cooling.

As far as the oceans "emptying" into aquifers-we have aquifers drying up completely.

Just because one has not experienced any rise along one's own coastal area does not negate the studies conducted by NOAA, Woods Hole, and so many others.

These scientists are not becoming rich; they are presenting credible findings, issues to think about, learn about, debate about (respectfully).

The scientists disagree and they may not be getting rich but they respond to grant money and the direction in which the sponsor is interested.

Love4cats · ‎03-09-2010

@ThinkingOutLoud wrote:
"by 2100" - that's 80 years from now. Things will be a lot better by then but not because of low greenhouse gases, etc.

I think I know what you are referring to here and ITA.

CrazyDaisy · ‎03-20-2010

@Drythe wrote:
@agb80 wrote:
No matter what the U.S. does it will be negated by India and China. Not much we can do about that.

@agb80

As the ‘leading industrial’ nation,
I think we should lead the way, rather than find/make excuses.