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[Johnnyeager]

The United States is not the world's leading "industrial" nation.

Largest economy,  perhaps.

[Cakers3]

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@candyagain wrote:

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@Cakers3 wrote:

The warming of the earth's atmosphere does lead to cooling.

As far as the oceans "emptying" into aquifers-we have aquifers drying up completely.

Just because one has not experienced any rise along one's own coastal area does not negate the studies  conducted by NOAA, Woods Hole, and so many others.

These scientists are not becoming rich; they are presenting credible findings, issues to think about, learn about, debate about (respectfully).

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The scientists disagree and they may not be getting rich but they respond to grant money and the direction in which the sponsor is interested.

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@candyagain   Disagreement is important because it takes into account issues that are overlooked on both sides.  In other words, the disagreements can lead to a middle ground where solutions will be more effective.

Medical research doesn't agree all the time, either.  Yet all the research-comparing notes-can lead to more effective treatments and hopefully cures.

Grant money is important and I much prefer grant money be invested in environmental issues than studying the rate of flow in Heinz ketchup.

[Cakers3]

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@gardenman wrote:

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@decaf wrote:

@Cakers3I'm not a scientist but I don't need to be to know we have a problem.

By chance, @gardenman  I just started reading another thread about buying a new phone (I need one) where you say you" live in southwest New Jersey, AS FAR FROM THE OCEAN AS YOU CAN POSSIBLY GET IN S. JERSEY." 

I got the impression you live very close to the ocean from your posts here. 

I stand by my earlier comments.

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Far from the ocean is very, very close ot the Delaware River and Delaware Bay. New Jersey is technically a peninsula with water on three sides. To the east you have the ocean. To the west the river. To the south, the bay. I can see both the river and bay out of the back windows of my house. (In the wintertime anyway when the leaves are off the trees. Not so much in the summer.) The Salem river runs directly across the street from my house. There used to be a floating dock with a boardwalk leading to it that led out into the Salem River where I spent most of my summers fishing. I've fished in the Mannington Meadows most of my younger life. 

I live closer to "rising sea water" than pretty much anyone else here. The Mannington Meadow is about fifty-ish feet from my front door. Gve or take a bit. I've never measured it. There's my relatively narrow front yard, the street, then about six feet of dry land on the other side of the street, then the meadow. At most it's a hundred feet away. I wouldn't even say a hundred feet though. 

If earlier predictions of "rising sea levels" had been true, I'd be typing this in deep water. I'm not. The ocean, bay, and river are all connected. Rising water in one means rising water in all. I'm in river/bay territory. There's been no major change in the levels of the river, bay, or meadows in my lifetime. If there had been, I'd be underwater.

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@gardenman  The predictions are not for your time.  As I said earlier, nothing happens overnight.  The predictions/estimates/etc. are for a continuing problem that COULD lead to areas being underwater.

Just because you are sitting dry doesn't mean everyone in the future will have the same security.