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Re: Relating to another thread on this BB . . .

On 1/8/2014 Ford1224 said:
On 1/8/2014 JaneMarple said:
On 1/8/2014 Ford1224 said:
On 1/8/2014 Melania2 said:

I am sorry you experienced that. It had to be very frightening.

In is so wrong.

I get your point that it can and does happen....why don't people get that and blame families/patients? Your examples show that.

Wait till it happens to them.

One of my daughters has worked in hospitals for 16 years. She is not a medical professional, she is in the IT Department which runs their computer systems. But she hears a lot . . . news travels fast in these hospitals, especially bad news. There is a "closed mouth" policy, but they do talk among themselves. There are many incidents with unaware patients that never get reported to the families, let's just say that.

It is being said more and more, a hospital is not necessarily the safest place to be anymore. One has to be one's own advocate, if possible . . . or the family must know they have to be alert to what is going on at all times.

Ford I would like to ask a question that came up last night.

Do you think that with the modern technology of entering the patient's information in the computer that said information can be manipulated or falsisified?

He*l*l, yes. Having headed up the computer department in a CPA firm for over 20 years,
absolutely no doubt.

Now, I must say I don't think it happens often, not an every day thing in the hospitals. If my daughter has ever encountered that, she has not told me, which is just as well.

There are many on the other thread that seriously doubt that this could happen in this day and age. I say it can, thanks Ford.Smile

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On 1/8/2014 sidsmom said:

...lots of blame. The doctor, the hospital, the attorney...even yourself for not pursuing. At the end of the day, you're the one that has to look in the mirror. I thought the love of a mother for her child was unwavering. Why was there a disconnect this time?

Wow...mean much?

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On 1/8/2014 SurvivedOne said:

Unless you have genuine proof anything was, is amiss, what is the point? Suggesting family members passed due to some sort of "professional" neglect, where is the proof? Do you really think the daughters would want this suggested while grieving? Most of us have been through several family members with ongoing terminal and/or progressive illnesses. As well as having bad things occur when they really shouldn't have. People pass when things suggest everything may be ok. I speak from experience. But I would never place any blame/and or responsibility on anyone unless I was a hundred percent sure it was warranted. Live your life in the present and be grateful you have your children.

Well said.

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Re: Relating to another thread on this BB . . .

On 1/8/2014 JaneMarple said:
On 1/8/2014 Ford1224 said:
On 1/8/2014 JaneMarple said:
On 1/8/2014 Ford1224 said:
On 1/8/2014 Melania2 said:

I am sorry you experienced that. It had to be very frightening.

In is so wrong.

I get your point that it can and does happen....why don't people get that and blame families/patients? Your examples show that.

Wait till it happens to them.

One of my daughters has worked in hospitals for 16 years. She is not a medical professional, she is in the IT Department which runs their computer systems. But she hears a lot . . . news travels fast in these hospitals, especially bad news. There is a "closed mouth" policy, but they do talk among themselves. There are many incidents with unaware patients that never get reported to the families, let's just say that.

It is being said more and more, a hospital is not necessarily the safest place to be anymore. One has to be one's own advocate, if possible . . . or the family must know they have to be alert to what is going on at all times.

Ford I would like to ask a question that came up last night.

Do you think that with the modern technology of entering the patient's information in the computer that said information can be manipulated or falsisified?

He*l*l, yes. Having headed up the computer department in a CPA firm for over 20 years,
absolutely no doubt.

Now, I must say I don't think it happens often, not an every day thing in the hospitals. If my daughter has ever encountered that, she has not told me, which is just as well.

There are many on the other thread that seriously doubt that this could happen in this day and age. I say it can, thanks Ford.Smile

I agree. too. We have been asked by clients to alter numbers, documents, you name it. They get the boot.

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Re: Relating to another thread on this BB . . .

On 1/8/2014 Sushismom said:

I don't think anyone is denying mistakes happen in hospitals. And most have said if the hospital was at fault, they need to be held responsible.

However, the fact remains that only one side of this story has been told. That's the point many are trying to make.

ITA.

There will always be mistakes because medical personnel are human.

This was a horrible thing for your daughter, Ford, but I do have to add that this in no way "proves" anything for the Oakland case. We do not have all the facts and the rush to paint the hospital as the wrong doer is just as wrong as vilifying the mother.

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Re: Relating to another thread on this BB . . .

Why would it NOT happen ""in this day and age""?

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On 1/8/2014 KittyLouWhoToo said:

Why would it NOT happen ""in this day and age""?

Exactly!!! Such denial.

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On 1/8/2014 KittyLouWhoToo said:

Why would it NOT happen ""in this day and age""?

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Re: Relating to another thread on this BB . . .

And yet a poster with actual experience in the medical field and medical reporting has stated it would be almost impossible to change/delete any information. And considering how many medical personnel are involved in the care of a patient, all would need to falsify information. All.

I was a programmer and systems analyst. Started back in 1982. That's over 30 years experience in the computer field.

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Re: Relating to another thread on this BB . . .

On 1/8/2014 Melania2 said:
On 1/8/2014 JaneMarple said:
On 1/8/2014 Ford1224 said:
On 1/8/2014 JaneMarple said:
On 1/8/2014 Ford1224 said:
On 1/8/2014 Melania2 said:

I am sorry you experienced that. It had to be very frightening.

In is so wrong.

I get your point that it can and does happen....why don't people get that and blame families/patients? Your examples show that.

Wait till it happens to them.

One of my daughters has worked in hospitals for 16 years. She is not a medical professional, she is in the IT Department which runs their computer systems. But she hears a lot . . . news travels fast in these hospitals, especially bad news. There is a "closed mouth" policy, but they do talk among themselves. There are many incidents with unaware patients that never get reported to the families, let's just say that.

It is being said more and more, a hospital is not necessarily the safest place to be anymore. One has to be one's own advocate, if possible . . . or the family must know they have to be alert to what is going on at all times.

Ford I would like to ask a question that came up last night.

Do you think that with the modern technology of entering the patient's information in the computer that said information can be manipulated or falsisified?

He*l*l, yes. Having headed up the computer department in a CPA firm for over 20 years,
absolutely no doubt.

Now, I must say I don't think it happens often, not an every day thing in the hospitals. If my daughter has ever encountered that, she has not told me, which is just as well.

There are many on the other thread that seriously doubt that this could happen in this day and age. I say it can, thanks Ford.Smile

I agree. too. We have been asked by clients to alter numbers, documents, you name it. They get the boot.

Thought so too.

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