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‎09-28-2017 01:43 PM
RIP but sorry Mr. Hefner I thought you were creep.
‎09-28-2017 01:54 PM
My brother had a bookstore and we kept Playboy behind the counter.
I didn't know he was married or had 4 children.
‎09-28-2017 02:00 PM
@colliemom4 wrote:I saw Larry Flynt on Million Dollar Listing LA about a week ago. He was in a wheelchair.
@colliemom4. He has been in a wheelchair since the 70's I think. Someone shot him and he is partially paralyzed.
‎09-28-2017 02:11 PM - edited ‎09-28-2017 02:13 PM
@Oznell wrote:Whew-- complex discussion. Because of my particular world view, I believe that sexuality was created for marriage. I think an intelligence greater than our own, knew that something as potent as sex was best served by the safeguards of marriage.
I do feel very sorry for Mr. Hefner, regret for the type of life he lived and encouraged several generations of people to live.
Perhaps, at the end, he regretted it in his heart. I'm going to hope for that.
I couldn't disagree more with your first paragraph.
Your religious beliefs are yours to believe but leave room for a whole lot of others who don't hold those beliefs.
I'm ambivalent about the whole Playboy phenomenon.
If it encouraged women to embrace their own sexuality after millennia of repression, that's a good thing. If it was objectifying women, that's bad. I tend to thin, it was a bit of both.
‎09-28-2017 02:15 PM
I'm with you on being ambivalent about Playboy and its founder, too, @Ms tyrion2.
‎09-28-2017 02:25 PM
I am sorry for his family's loss but have no desire to heap praise on a man who used women to build an empire devoted to men's fantasies.
‎09-28-2017 02:25 PM
I am not at all ambivalent about Hugh Hefner. He made a lot of money.
Out of curiousity, I did a search for women who had made money (and were wealthy) from this industry or from producing the photos you could expect from this industry.
The only thing that turned up were stories about damaged women being taken advantage of.
Are there any women who are famous and successful along the lines of Hugh Hefner?
‎09-28-2017 02:37 PM - edited ‎09-28-2017 02:40 PM
@stuyvesant wrote:Are there any women who are famous and successful along the lines of Hugh Hefner?
Magazine publisher?
Oprah
Martha Stewart
Christie Hefner
Benefitting from a woman’s image?
Anna Wintour, Vogue Publisher
‎09-28-2017 02:39 PM
@sidsmom wrote:
@stuyvesant wrote:Are there any women who are famous and successful along the lines of Hugh Hefner?
Magazine publisher?
Oprah comes to mind, O Magazine Publisher
Benefitting from a woman’s image?
Anna Wintour, Vogue Publisher
I wouldn't put either of those women in the same category as Hugh Hefner.
And I don't think that's just me. But - your mileage may vary.
‎09-28-2017 02:41 PM
@stuyvesant wrote:
@sidsmom wrote:
@stuyvesant wrote:Are there any women who are famous and successful along the lines of Hugh Hefner?
Magazine publisher?
Oprah comes to mind, O Magazine Publisher
Benefitting from a woman’s image?
Anna Wintour, Vogue Publisher
I wouldn't put either of those women in the same category as Hugh Hefner.
That’s true, he was miles & miles ahead of his time.
Like what was said upthread...he was a visionary.
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