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He went to my high school a few years before I did.


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No one deserves to die from Covid. I'm sorry he had to go that way. I hope he suffered as little as possible.

 

He sure did deserve to be in prison however. He murdered a woman and almost got away with it.

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@SeaMaiden  Yikes !!!

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@Porcelain wrote:

No one deserves to die from Covid. I'm sorry he had to go that way. I hope he suffered as little as possible.

 

He sure did deserve to be in prison however. He murdered a woman and almost got away with it.


@Porcelain   The woman he murdered SUFFERED....I hope he suffers in Hell

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Re: Phil Spector Dead At 81

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@SeaMaiden wrote:

@Porcelain wrote:

No one deserves to die from Covid. I'm sorry he had to go that way. I hope he suffered as little as possible.

 

He sure did deserve to be in prison however. He murdered a woman and almost got away with it.


@Porcelain   The woman he murdered SUFFERED....I hope he suffers in Hell


If suffering is bad and people should be punished for making other suffer, then no one should be deliberately made or allowed to suffer. If suffering can ever be justified by bad behavior, then we are at the mercy of others' judgements of our worthiness. Considering that we are so divided over what is right and what is wrong right now, half of our population could justify the other half suffering right now. That way lies great evil. The idea that those we hate for various valid (to us) reasons deserve to suffer has been used to justify atrocities all throughout history.

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@Porcelain wrote:

@SeaMaiden wrote:

@Porcelain wrote:

No one deserves to die from Covid. I'm sorry he had to go that way. I hope he suffered as little as possible.

 

He sure did deserve to be in prison however. He murdered a woman and almost got away with it.


@Porcelain   The woman he murdered SUFFERED....I hope he suffers in Hell


If suffering is bad and people should be punished for making other suffer, then no one should suffer. If suffering can ever be justified by bad behavior, then we are at the mercy of others' judgements of our worthiness. Considering that we are so divided over what is right and what is wrong right now, half of our population could justify the other half suffering right now. That way lies great evil. The idea that those we hate for various valid (to us) reasons deserve to suffer has been used to justify atrocities all throughout history.


@Porcelain   I remember An eye for an eye...a tooth for a tooth....

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@Porcelain   I remember An eye for an eye...a tooth for a tooth....


And that was superseded by unearned miraculous grace and mercy. And of course the rule of law.

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Re: Phil Spector Dead At 81

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@Porcelain wrote:

@SeaMaiden wrote:

@Porcelain wrote:


@Porcelain   I remember An eye for an eye...a tooth for a tooth....


And that was superseded by unearned miraculous grace and mercy. And of course the rule of law.


Has the United States ever been an "eye for an eye" country? @Porcelain If so, thank goodness we have evolved.


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There was a very interesting Twitter response to the story, or the way it was framed, initially.  I usually don't pay attention to Twitter-horde groupthink, but this was an enlightening corrective.

 

Much of the media was initially reporting the story in a way that seemed to focus mostly on Spector's splashy career, with the mention of the murder he committed seemingly minimized.  Many on Twitter (and other places, for all I know), reacted with criticism and revulsion to this-- and showcased the initial headlines that did that.  Now, when you look up the headlines, virtually all have been altered to reflect the enormity of the crime, and the victim's name, Lana Clarkson. 

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Musically speaking Spector was very successful and make his mark .  However, his dark side took him down a evil path and that is a big part of his legacy.