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‎12-24-2014 01:26 AM
On 12/21/2014 JLLH358 said:I read all the references you listed and don't find anything to verify that there will be animals in heaven. I love animals, too, but they don't have eternal souls/spirits. The "Lamb" mentioned in Revelation refers to Christ, not an actual animal.On 12/19/2014 HiLo said:All I really know about heaven is what the Bible has to say: Everything else will pale when we see Jesus Christ in all his glory. The Bible does indicate there will be animals in heaven but don't know anymore than this.
Actually, it does. Revelation 5; Romans 8:19, Ephesians 1:9-10; Psalms 145, to name but a few, do strongly speak of "all" of His creation and His plans for them.
‎12-24-2014 08:31 AM
If that's the case, I'm not going to heaven then.
You people who don't believe our pets will be there, just believe what YOU want, and I'll believe what I want. I'm not all that religious anyhow.
‎12-24-2014 12:05 PM
On 12/21/2014 beauty junkie said:If my pets weren't in Heaven I wouldn't care where I went but I know they will be there,God created these loving souls who are better then people,more loving and caring thats for sure.
I sooo agree! They're healing and when we rescue them, they end up rescuing US! I have learned about love and loving from them!
‎12-25-2014 04:15 PM
I very much believe this........my belief has helped me grieve many pet losses as I envision all of our deceased dogs now healthy, running easily and freely!
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‎12-29-2014 10:56 AM
Francis is a kind, loving man.
‎01-08-2015 10:16 PM
On 12/23/2014 minwife said:On 12/21/2014 JLLH358 said:I read all the references you listed and don't find anything to verify that there will be animals in heaven. I love animals, too, but they don't have eternal souls/spirits. The "Lamb" mentioned in Revelation refers to Christ, not an actual animal.On 12/19/2014 HiLo said:All I really know about heaven is what the Bible has to say: Everything else will pale when we see Jesus Christ in all his glory. The Bible does indicate there will be animals in heaven but don't know anymore than this.
Actually, it does. Revelation 5; Romans 8:19, Ephesians 1:9-10; Psalms 145, to name but a few, do strongly speak of "all" of His creation and His plans for them.
So the "creatures" and "all of creation" does not refer to and include animals? Remember that they were first in the garden. So by that reasoning, God has changed His mind about the animals being eternal (no death before the Fall), but not mankind?? Your interpretation flies in the face of Biblical consistency, I'm afraid. What is the "lion" referenced who will "lie down" with the lamb? Who are the "creatures" gathered around the throne since they are clearly not all human? (Nor is it indicated that they are angels since no where else are "angels" referenced as "creatures".) Who are the "all" of creation repeatedly referenced who will be unified and will witness the redemption of creation? Not angels, certainly (and do they even have "souls" in the same sense as we?? They are certainly eternal..... even the fallen) -- and no indication that it's only the two-legged critters either. Only the animals are innocent of sin. Therein lies the difference. The great theologians of our past knew this and had great faith in the ability of God to love and care for ALL of His creation. I wonder that our age has become so narcissistic that so many who should know better have convinced themselves that they are the only beings that matter to God.
(I believe the Bible says what it means and means what it says...and when it refers to "ALL" things under Heaven and Earth, how are animals excluded?)
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