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[Trinity11]

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@stevieb wrote:

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@Trinity11 wrote:

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@stevieb wrote:

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@Trinity11 wrote:

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@stevieb wrote:

As predicted... let the data dumping begin... And since there's so much discrepancy, believe whatever numbers you want... Be advised, however, that nobody in their right mind is disputing that this is killing too many people. Given that, one wonders what the point is of the endless discussion about the extent of the suffering... Do we really need to wallow in it? 

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Facts have nothing to do with "wallowing" in it. If someone posts something untrue, then clearly why would anyone take offense at a correction?

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No one is 'taking offense' @Trinity11 at purported corrections... In fact, no one is 'taking offense' in any way... What I am expressing is my own personal view that it is unnecessary to debate the extent of the suffering and misery at all. It's pretty clear there's more than enough to go around and so yes, continuing, as some seem intent on doing, to harp on the absolute extent of the devastation does indeed begin to feel a bit like some folks are choosing to wallow in it and won't be satisfied until we are all wallowing in it...

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Since these numbers you would prefer not to read about, perhaps you should avoid these threads @stevieb . I have been avoiding the negative, constant critiques of "The Young and the Restless" and the relentless condemnations of the male actors who perform in them, for months now. I would love it if those who despise these shows would just stop watching them and stop the negativity but it's not my right to tell posters where, what and how posters should behave.

Speaking of "wallowing."

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RIght @Trinity11  because discussion of a currently nearly defunct soap opera is right up there in importance with this conversation... We're very different people and both of us are free to express our points of view, both about topics on these boards and about each others opinions... And once again, along with several others, let me express my thanks to you for your suggestion that I avoid these threads, as if doing so were a simple matter on these boards... I feel certain your suggestion is based on nothing but your deep concern for a fellow poster and the proverbial milk of human kindness... Still, as noted, I'll elect how best to spend my time on these boards and right now my time is best spent pointing out that the original post on this thread was a commentary on concerns OTHER than the virus and yet, as predicted, folks couldn't respect that... As always, it was turned into another virus central thread... Have a nice day...

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LOL @stevieb , I most definitely will have a nice day....free of negativity and endless condemnation of just about everything on this board.

Positivity...it's a good thing.

[stevieb]

@Trinity11  Good for you... Enjoy! And always remember, just as it's theoretically possible for fellow posters to skip threads they prefer not to read, it's also possible for posters to skip posts by others that rankle their sensibilities... Just sayin'...

Banter aside, be safe and take care...

[hckynut]

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@QueenDanceALot wrote:

Unfortunately, all of the things you mention are in large part due to the virus.  So they're not exactly separate issues.

@QueenDanceALot 

Don't disagree often with you, but? Most of these things were and are happening, are not connected to the virus. I won't list all of them. Will just say Mental Health/Colonoscopy/Heart Disease! Were issues I dealt with, and still deal with, and long before the virus.

There were a whole lot of people I met dealing with the same issues, then, and I believe now!

Stay well now,

hckynut 🏒

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[lovescats]

The first case of COVID-19 in US was reported 100 days ago on 1/22/2020. Since then, the country has reported 1,132,539 cases, and 66,369 deaths.

This page was last updated on Saturday, May 2, 2020 at 11:53 PM EDT.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/new-cases 

[stevieb]

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@Isobel Archer wrote:

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@stevieb wrote:

@Isobel Archer  Beautifully stated, whoever wrote it and I would only add what has become painfully obvious in recent days and that is the myth of a united America is just that... For a variety of reasons, our nation is one where commonalities, shared values, ideals and dreams are no longer so prolific, and so to expect us all to hang tough and hang together, as during the oft mentioned World War 2, is a pipe dream... We're not the same country, we're not the same mix of people, and we don't share the same history now as then...

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I agree.  Sadly, even after 9/11, there was an immediate effort to divide the country.  And it has continued.

I honestly don't know what would happen if we were attacked again - even by a specific country.  I'm sure there would be those defending that country and insisting that we would be wrong to respond.

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@Isobel Archer  I think it goes back further... It seems to me there's been a fundamental shift in so many things, probably since the late 1980's... Along with possible intentional efforts at division, many policies and operational procedures at all levels have served to create very different views, increased polarization, more extreme ideologies and a very different United States... At this point, there would seem to be very little potential for any meaningful emphasis on the sense of unity that was once more pervasive... It often seems an 'us v them' mentality has become very prominent in the way things are conceptualized, and once again, there are many reasons that mind-set has evolved, none of which can we really discuss here...

[SusieQ_2]

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@stevieb wrote:

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@SusieQ_2 wrote:

@stevieb 

If you weren't keeping score (a comment as false as the one that you won't be reading posts re: the numbers) you wouldn't have felt the need to comment on my unnecessary concern about your problem with too much information. 

I notice while you mention me  "having at it" you made no such statement about yours which was not only snarky but also started our exchange.

At least I tried to offer an olive branch. Sorry you weren't willing to accept it. 

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@SusieQ_2  Let's be clear here, I never called you out by name until you saw fit not to show me the same courtesy, and my initial comment about the data dumping could have and did apply to several posters... If you thought it was directed specifically at you, then maybe that should tell you something. For the record, I'm not particularly concerned with your rather sophomoric comments aimed at me nor with your opinion of me. As for that supposed olive branch, I somehow must have missed that. Quite frankly, I'm done with this conversation. Enjoy your numbers crunching.

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@stevieb 

Yes, let's be very clear. I saw your phrase du jour several times yesterday, thought it was rather rude, and certainly wasn't surprised you continued to use it. When you used it here yet again, incorrectly I might add, regardless of whether I was your sole aim, or it was aimed at a few, it was a rude comment exactly as you intended it to be. And as much as I hoped you would, I never expected you to accept responsibility for it.

Sophomoric? Yes, whether it be the hundreds of comments you've posted regarding the Duchess, putting down QVC and its hosts, or these nasty barbs you throw in just for the heck of it, you're definitely an old pro.

As for the olive branch, you didn't miss it, but that's fine. I doubt there's a branch big enough to knock that chip off your shoulder. 

And for the numbers, stay tuned. Of course there's absolutely no doubt you will be. 

[hckynut]

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@stevieb wrote:

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@Isobel Archer wrote:

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@stevieb wrote:

@Isobel Archer  Beautifully stated, whoever wrote it and I would only add what has become painfully obvious in recent days and that is the myth of a united America is just that... For a variety of reasons, our nation is one where commonalities, shared values, ideals and dreams are no longer so prolific, and so to expect us all to hang tough and hang together, as during the oft mentioned World War 2, is a pipe dream... We're not the same country, we're not the same mix of people, and we don't share the same history now as then...

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I agree.  Sadly, even after 9/11, there was an immediate effort to divide the country.  And it has continued.

I honestly don't know what would happen if we were attacked again - even by a specific country.  I'm sure there would be those defending that country and insisting that we would be wrong to respond.

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@Isobel Archer  I think it goes back further... It seems to me there's been a fundamental shift in so many things, probably since the late 1980's... Along with possible intentional efforts at division, many policies and operational procedures at all levels have served to create very different views, increased polarization, more extreme ideologies and a very different United States... At this point, there would seem to be very little potential for any meaningful emphasis on the sense of unity that was once more pervasive... It often seems an 'us v them' mentality has become very prominent in the way things are conceptualized, and once again, there are many reasons that mind-set has evolved, none of which can we really discuss here...

@Isobel Archer @stevieb 

The word I choose to use for the changes you have mentioned since the aforementioned year! Globalization.

hckynut 🏒

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