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Granted the defination of a non essential business differs from State to State, yet why are so many treating these businesses/people as disposable?  If they want to feed their family go stand in a soup line.  Can't pay your bills, get government assistance.  These were working productive citizens just weeks ago and most want to return to work.  Keep hearing "save lives", what about these lives....reduced to begging for what the rest will share.  These are the ones who are sacrificing and suffering.

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Re: Non Essential = Disposable

Wow you gave me pause for thought.There have just been so many sacrifices over this last couple of months. I wonder how how we will ever get our lives back and if people will feel safe enough to support the reopenings.

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Re: Non Essential = Disposable

I don't think anyone is looking at them as "disposable".  I think many are looking at them as not the priority at this time. To paraphrase my governor, Preserving human life (meaning saving people from dying) is more important than anything else right now.  He continued by saying We WILL open  - it's a matter of opening in the right way so that more lives will be saved.  I'm with him.

 

I like to think I'm a pretty intelligent, productive and very marketable person.  Yet I've had to collect unemployment three times in my life.  Do you think I was happy about it?  Of course not.  But I certainly didn't consider it "begging".  I did what I had to.  It wasn't beneath me.  And if I had to do something like that again to save lives I would.

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Re: Non Essential = Disposable


@Deree wrote:

I don't think anyone is looking at them as "disposable".  I think many are looking at them as not the priority at this time. To paraphrase my governor, Preserving human life (meaning saving people from dying) is more important than anything else right now.  He continued by saying We WILL open  - it's a matter of opening in the right way so that more lives will be saved.  I'm with him.

 

I like to think I'm a pretty intelligent, productive and very marketable person.  Yet I've had to collect unemployment three times in my life.  Do you think I was happy about it?  Of course not.  But I certainly didn't consider it "begging".  I did what I had to.  It wasn't beneath me.  And if I had to do something like that again to save lives I would.


I think that it is true that people like you will bounce back, yet a majority of those who are currently deemed "non - essential" do not have the skills or education you have. Many businesses will not open back up, many jobs will be lost permanently.  Many of those people were low paid and just getting by before this whole thing started.

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Re: Non Essential = Disposable

Our Governor is BOLD (Abbott) in trying to get people back to work, but our Mayor is WIMPY (Ron) N.) ---it seems the lines at the Food Bank dont impress him much....but at least our city doesnt arrest people trying to get their businesses open....like the cities north of us!!!  Slowly people are going back to work, but will others come out of hiding to support them....thats another question.....

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Re: Non Essential = Disposable

@CrazyDaisyIf there's going to be anything good about how this pandemic plays out, I fear we won't know that until history is written 15 or 20 years or more from now. 

 

But just before I flicked on my laptop, I read a letter to the editor in my local paper in which the writer blames the media for the fear and frenzy.  He'd have kept the nation open and sacrificed those who contracted the disease and suffered.

 

If only in real time we could know how that would have played out!  

 

Nobody's disposible but different people do choose different victims and may not even consciously know someone will die because of that choice -  will it be Ned on the meat-packing line or Molly in the nursing home?  Will it be the waitress  who can't find a job now or the Vietnam veteran saying a final good-bye via someone's iPad?

 

I can suppose all I want to -   I have no natural control the way the virus does but I also have no governmental control or voice so what I decide affects only me in a way - i wouldn't do well at all deciding who should bear the loss more than I personally do.  

 

 

 

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@CrazyDaisy   I agree with you!  I can't imagine how those people are dealing with this disaster!...and it's only going to get worse for many.

 

The sad part is that those who are out of work can't even begin to look for other jobs because of the competition and the fact that there are almost no jobs to be had!  Unemployment and the $600.00 extra a week can only go so far and last so long. 

 

Many businesses will not return.

 

 

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Re: Non Essential = Disposable


@Deree wrote:

I don't think anyone is looking at them as "disposable".  I think many are looking at them as not the priority at this time. To paraphrase my governor, Preserving human life (meaning saving people from dying) is more important than anything else right now.  He continued by saying We WILL open  - it's a matter of opening in the right way so that more lives will be saved.  I'm with him.

 

I like to think I'm a pretty intelligent, productive and very marketable person.  Yet I've had to collect unemployment three times in my life.  Do you think I was happy about it?  Of course not.  But I certainly didn't consider it "begging".  I did what I had to.  It wasn't beneath me.  And if I had to do something like that again to save lives I would.


@Deree  Unfortunately, there have been many -- some elected officials of varying levels, some so-called protesters, some who still think present circumstances are just blown out of proportion -- who have said those workers are disposable.    It's more than a crying shame, it's unconscionable.

 

That's totally different from Open in the right way. I'm with that too.

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@CrazyDaisy  I hear what you're saying.  Despite the sentence you bolded I have had to sacrifice much in my lifetime.  That sentence is not the whole story -- I've had plenty of unplanned expenses and it has always been a struggle to keep afloat anyhow.  Thanks to my planning and understanding the importance of saving for a rainy day I came out ok.  Perhaps I'm judging others here (well too bad) but I think too many people live beyond their means don't plan ahead and wind up in trouble.

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@millieshops wrote:

@CrazyDaisyIf there's going to be anything good about how this pandemic plays out, I fear we won't know that until history is written 15 or 20 years or more from now. 

 

But just before I flicked on my laptop, I read a letter to the editor in my local paper in which the writer blames the media for the fear and frenzy.  He'd have kept the nation open and sacrificed those who contracted the disease and suffered.

 

If only in real time we could know how that would have played out!  

 

Nobody's disposible but different people do choose different victims and may not even consciously know someone will die because of that choice -  will it be Ned on the meat-packing line or Molly in the nursing home?  Will it be the waitress  who can't find a job now or the Vietnam veteran saying a final good-bye via someone's iPad?

 

I can suppose all I want to -   I have no natural control the way the virus does but I also have no governmental control or voice so what I decide affects only me in a way - i wouldn't do well at all deciding who should bear the loss more than I personally do.  

 

 

 


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