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[Linders Back]

On 4/10/2015 SydneyH said:

The victim had a warrant regarding past due child support, hardly a threat to society.

More video and the actual audio of the stop have surfaced.

What is extremely upsetting (as if gunning down an unarmed man by shooting him repeatedly in the back and then planting the taser near his body isn't enough), the video also debunks the officers claim of giving the victim CPR. NO officers at the scene (others did show up after the fact) did anything to save the man's life. They are shown just standing around. So this cancer reaches a bit deeper than just the initial officer in the case.

[Lila Belle]

I'm waiting to hear what the passenger in Mr. Scott's car has to say.

[Lion]

On 4/10/2015 mominohio said:

This man had outstanding warrants and the consequences for them would have been minuscule. At this early stage of the investigation, it does appear that excessive force has been used by the officer, but time will tell the entire story.

The victim fled, and perhaps did more before doing so, and therefore bears some responsibility in his own death. But based on the warrant, responsibility wasn't his thing.

So, he deserved to die?

I listened to an expert that usually investigates these types of killings for the police to help *defend* them. He said there was NO excuse for this killing. The officer could've chased him, he was close enough and the man was jogging more than running.

The officer didn't even try to pursue him on foot. He just stood there, pulled his gun, and shot him in the back.

[PIT-HAG Melissa]

mominohio-His superiors obviously felt there was enough evidence to fire and charge him with murder...

Generally speaking that would NEVER happen to a fellow P.O unless there was a VERY STRONG case against him!!

[Mominohio]

On 4/10/2015 terrier3 said:

On 4/10/2015 mominohio said:

This man had outstanding warrants and the consequences for them would have been minuscule. At this early stage of the investigation, it does appear that excessive force has been used by the officer, but time will tell the entire story.

The victim fled, and perhaps did more before doing so, and therefore bears some responsibility in his own death. But based on the warrant, responsibility wasn't his thing.

The man is being charged with murder.

The victim wasn't responsible for his death. It is against the law to shoot a fleeing man in the back.

What happened before wasn't the issue. The officer wasn't in danger of grave harm from a fleeing man.

What might have happened before is the issue, and as of now, none of us know exactly what that was.

And anyone running from the law, when they know they have outstanding warrants etc. is partially responsible for what is happening to them. People need to stand up, and take responsibility for what they are doing, and stop assuming they are within their 'rights' to assault officers, run when told to stay, run their mouth and become unruly. When you don't work to diffuse a tense situation, you help determine the outcome. Period.

[sfnative]

There's a lot more going on during a traffic stop than you think. Just sayin.'

[terrier3]

On 4/10/2015 mominohio said:

What might have happened before is the issue, and as of now, none of us know exactly what that was.

And anyone running from the law, when they know they have outstanding warrants etc. is partially responsible for what is happening to them. People need to stand up, and take responsibility for what they are doing, and stop assuming they are within their 'rights' to assault officers, run when told to stay, run their mouth and become unruly. When you don't work to diffuse a tense situation, you help determine the outcome. Period.

Sorry but the only thing at issue is that the man was running and the officer stopped, stood still, aimed and fired 8 shots in his direction, until he fell dead.

That is why he is being charged with murder.

The man had rights too and shooting him in the back was a felony crime.

Even the lawyer quit the case after he saw the video. There is NO EXCUSE whatsoever for what this officer did. None. He tried to make an excuse by planting the taser near the dead man's body. Even HE realized that he had NO reason to shoot this man.

Period.

[Mominohio]

On 4/10/2015 Lion said:

On 4/10/2015 mominohio said: <p class="quote_author">This man had outstanding warrants and the consequences for them would have been minuscule. At this early stage of the investigation, it does appear that excessive force has been used by the officer, but time will tell the entire story.

The victim fled, and perhaps did more before doing so, and therefore bears some responsibility in his own death. But based on the warrant, responsibility wasn't his thing.

So, he deserved to die?

I listened to an expert that usually investigates these types of killings for the police to help *defend* them. He said there was NO excuse for this killing. The officer could've chased him, he was close enough and the man was jogging more than running.

The officer didn't even try to pursue him on foot. He just stood there, pulled his gun, and shot him in the back.

Read much? Where in my quote did I say he deserved to die? I didn't. I said, that his actions that day, as well as previous actions to be in trouble with the law at all, were all contributing circumstances to how his life ended. He did have some responsibility in the way he handed himself that day and what he did, ultimately led to his death.

We often suffer bad consequences for things we do, and sometimes, they are not just or right or fair, but we did put ourselves in a position to make them probable, therefore we bear some responsibility.

[Lila Belle]

It did not have to end that way, mominohio, and that's the whole point.

And that's not just my opinion but by LE in SC and across the entire country by chiefs of police and sheriffs.

[Mominohio]

On 4/10/2015 Alley Catvocate said:

mominohio-His superiors obviously felt there was enough evidence to fire and charge him with murder...

Generally speaking that would NEVER happen to a fellow P.O unless there was a VERY STRONG case against him!!

I'm not, at this point, defending the officer, but being totally realistic about a man, who put himself in the position to be shot at by a cop (good or bad) because he made bad choices. He had a warrant out, he chose to run (for such a small problem, why didn't he value his own life more than that?) he didn't listen to what the officer told him to do. Should he have died for it? Probably not, but he does absolutely, unequivocally, under those circumstances, bear some responsibility for where he is right now.

In light of what is going down with theses things. I think anyone of any race or gender, would find it in their best interest to cooperate with LE when pulled over, follow simple directions, and should your rights be violated, live to handle it through the proper channels.