@willdob3 wrote:
@suzyQ3 wrote:
Everything I read states the vaccine will indeed confer a high percentage of immunity.
@suzyQ3
No, to be honest, they aren’t even sure how long it will help with less severe symptoms. No health expert or study has suggested any of the vaccines give immunity at all. Admittedly, they don’t talk that up and use careful wording that leads people to think there is immunity to be had. But I have never heard an expert state the vaccine gives immunity from infection.
The hope is that the vaccines will will lead to less severe symptoms and fewer hospitalizations and deaths.
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@willdob3, that is not really true. For example, in the Moderna's data when submitting for Emergency Use Authorization after gathering enough data from the clinical 3 trials it reports that the vaccine was 94% effective in preventing infection from SARS-C0V-2 in adults within 2 weeks after the second dose.
The same holds true for the Pfizer data.
In a phase 3 vaccine clinical trial they not only monitor for symptoms of infection, test for infection, they draw blood samples to identify if antibodies are present and to what degree. So at least during the clinical trial they know who is testing negative, has no symptoms, and also has various levels of antibodies identified in their blood samples.
When they release the vaccine out into the general population they will continue to monitor. They also continue to follow their vaccine subjects further on out as well once the data has become "unblinded". So they continue to follow all those subjects that received the vaccine even past the time they submit for authorization to monitor for safety and efficacy.
The Israeli study also bears out that data when they reported a 94% drop in symptomatic infections in individuals that had received 2 doses of the Pfizer vaccine. That directly correlates with the data from the phase 3 clinical trial that documented 94% efficacy after 2 doses.
I think what might be confusing you is that when let's say in the 6% of the vaccination individuals that do contract the virus that a study may report a 92% reduction on hospitalization. So they report that as a 92% reduction in hospitalization.
But that means in the 6% of vaccinated individuals that do contract the virus they have a much better chance of not contracting a serious case of the disease that leads to hospitalization. Specifically a 92% rate of not being hospitalized for the small percentage that do contract the virus is what that 92% terminology is addresing.
So based on the data we have currently for the mRNA vaccines, @suzyQ3 is correct when she states that vaccination confers a high degree of immunity.
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