Re: Michelle Carter To Get 2 1/2 Years In Texting ... - Page 4

CrazyDaisy · ‎03-20-2010

@ashleigh dupray wrote:
@Laura14 Michelle C is planning to become a Realtor.

Conrad was her boyfriend although the relationship was mostly by text. thousands of txts not just hi whats up. they both talked of suicide and she may have been influenced by the Netflix show 13 Reasons Why.

yes Conrad was depressed but she disregaded a moral duty to save his life. its just a punch in the face to the kid's family for her to get off with a slap on the wrist.

odds are she won't serve any time at all and/or the case will be overturned on appeal. her right to free speech was imperiled (ACLU) and because MA has no law i place re: assisted suicide.

she will have plenty of time to study for the real estate exam

Not likely since the Netflix series came out 3 years after this suicide took place.

Someday, when scientists discover the center of the Universe....some people will be disappointed it is not them.

noodleann · ‎06-10-2015

@ashleigh dupray wrote:
@Laura14 personally i would fee a moral obligation

not saying morality should become legislation. the fact that she could have alerted his parents, other friends that he had the CO2 source and was ready to go with it - was mentioned during the trial by several including the judge. the judge said she could have instructed him to stay out of the truck once he got out, but told him to "F'ing" get back in that truck.

she was texting to friends wondering where he was - saying she had not seen hime for a few days- at the same time or even shortly before he was dying in his truck.

maybe she and her parents will move to another state.

Or perhaps she'll take her own advice. It's unlikely the girls she was trying to impress with her status as "bereaved" after her victim's suicide want anything to do with her. Hard to imagine anyone except her family who'd miss her.

She's a sociopath. Whether she was born that way or is a product of a warped culture or a combination of both, I neither know nor care. All that matters is that if she hadn't done what she did to that poor boy, he'd probably still be alive. AFAIC, the sentence should be quadrupled.

Laura14 · ‎06-09-2014

@CatsyCline I hear you and that's why I think a legal consequence of a year in jail sitting her butt down to think about what she did is appropriate.

Taking away her entire life or most of it and making us pay for it, I think is grossly out of proportion and absolves the boy of the free will choices he made.

I would be more in line with you if this was a case of a completely helpless victim. I remember the old case that the movie "The Accused" was based on. They went after the guys who did nothing while the attack happened right in front of them.

If this was more similar to that, I'd be right with you for some real jail time, maybe not 20 years, but something significant because you just don't watch a helpless person being victimized right in front of you or over a phone and do nothing. In this day and age, it's real easy to do something (even anonymously) and get help.

But when someone is already in the middle of the event and just texts you on the phone, I'm having a real hard time laying it all at her feet.

songbird · ‎03-21-2010

@Laura14 wrote:
@CatsyCline I'd love to know the broker who will hire her. She better have a friend or also go for her brokerage license. She's gonna have a tough go plastering her face all over the place trying to sell houses and I don't think many people would hire her to represent their home.

And I respectfully just don't agree with the morality argument. Everyone has a different compass and I don't like to see any one version forced as a punishment on someone else. To me, that is a scarier slope to slip down although I completely get the argument.

Legislating people into being better humans just doesn't work. If it did, no one would commit a crime.

You don't need any college education to get in to real estate. She can start studying now. Just pass the exam. People have short memories. She probably will be successful ...who know?

JobGirl · ‎12-30-2010

@Laura14 wrote:
@CatsyCline I hear you and that's why I think a legal consequence of a year in jail sitting her butt down to think about what she did is appropriate.

Taking away her entire life or most of it and making us pay for it, I think is grossly out of proportion and absolves the boy of the free will choices he made.

I would be more in line with you if this was a case of a completely helpless victim. I remember the old case that the movie "The Accused" was based on. They went after the guys who did nothing while the attack happened right in front of them.

If this was more similar to that, I'd be right with you for some real jail time, maybe not 20 years, but something significant because you just don't watch a helpless person being victimized right in front of you or over a phone and do nothing. In this day and age, it's real easy to do something (even anonymously) and get help.

But when someone is already in the middle of the event and just texts you on the phone, I'm having a real hard time laying it all at her feet.

Thats not exactly the way it happened and I don;t know if you read any of her pages of texts but it was nothing like that

Its not like she said oh didn't mean to interrupt- carry on....

JobGirl · ‎12-30-2010

She knew what his mental state was, how fragile this boy was and how easily she could manipulate him-

She wasn't "feeling his pain" she was playing a sick twisted game

And I can also imagine if a boy coaxed a girl in the same mental state into something like this he'd be doing time -

Cakers3 · ‎06-17-2015

@ashleigh dupray wrote:
@Laura14 Michelle C is planning to become a Realtor.

Conrad was her boyfriend although the relationship was mostly by text. thousands of txts not just hi whats up. they both talked of suicide and she may have been influenced by the Netflix show 13 Reasons Why.

yes Conrad was depressed but she disregaded a moral duty to save his life. its just a punch in the face to the kid's family for her to get off with a slap on the wrist.

odds are she won't serve any time at all and/or the case will be overturned on appeal. her right to free speech was imperiled (ACLU) and because MA has no law i place re: assisted suicide.

she will have plenty of time to study for the real estate exam

@CatsyCline The Netfix series didn't come out until after Conrad's suicide.

The book came out around 2007.

"" Compassion is a verb."-Thich Nhat Hanh

Laura14 · ‎06-09-2014

@JobGirl wrote:
@Laura14 wrote:
@CatsyCline I hear you and that's why I think a legal consequence of a year in jail sitting her butt down to think about what she did is appropriate.

Taking away her entire life or most of it and making us pay for it, I think is grossly out of proportion and absolves the boy of the free will choices he made.

I would be more in line with you if this was a case of a completely helpless victim. I remember the old case that the movie "The Accused" was based on. They went after the guys who did nothing while the attack happened right in front of them.

If this was more similar to that, I'd be right with you for some real jail time, maybe not 20 years, but something significant because you just don't watch a helpless person being victimized right in front of you or over a phone and do nothing. In this day and age, it's real easy to do something (even anonymously) and get help.

But when someone is already in the middle of the event and just texts you on the phone, I'm having a real hard time laying it all at her feet.

Thats not exactly the way it happened and I don;t know if you read any of her pages of texts but it was nothing like that

Its not like she said oh didn't mean to interrupt- carry on....

@JobGirl If she drove with him and watched him set it all up or helped in the process to physically kill himself, I'm with you. From what I read, she was never at the site and it was all via text. In my opinion, he's also responsible for his own ultimate action and the devil or witch in this case who made him do it just doesn't completely fly for me in a legal sense.

Laura14 · ‎06-09-2014

@songbird wrote:
@Laura14 wrote:
@CatsyCline I'd love to know the broker who will hire her. She better have a friend or also go for her brokerage license. She's gonna have a tough go plastering her face all over the place trying to sell houses and I don't think many people would hire her to represent their home.

And I respectfully just don't agree with the morality argument. Everyone has a different compass and I don't like to see any one version forced as a punishment on someone else. To me, that is a scarier slope to slip down although I completely get the argument.

Legislating people into being better humans just doesn't work. If it did, no one would commit a crime.
You don't need any college education to get in to real estate. She can start studying now. Just pass the exam. People have short memories. She probably will be successful ...who know?

@songbird No it sure doesn't. My grandfather had an elementary school education and did just that. But I don't think you can just hang a shingle as a realtor. I'm pretty sure you have to work for a broker unless you get that license as well so good luck if she can find one who wants her face as one of their salespersons. I honestly hope she does find something. I'm sure the taxpayers in her state don't want to pay for her that way either.

Greeneyedlady21 · ‎01-06-2015

Conrad Roy's mother filed a 4.2 million dollar wrongful death lawsuit against Michelle Carter today. I think she might be divorced from Conrad's father, not sure about that. They want to start a foundation in his memory.

20/20 is doing a story about this case tonight.

"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”