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[hopi]

@Demitra1

I think the majority of people force themselves to exercise, especially if they have pain with movement.

Very basic Yoga move can help. Recommending the book Lilias, Yoga and Your Life.  Lots of very simple moves in the book.

[winamac1]

80% of losing weight is diet-20% is exercise.

Continue eating no bread , rice , pasta, potatoes and eat more lean protein and low-glycemic index vegetables. Stay away from corn and potatoes, peas and lima beans.   While trying to lose weight--stay away from too much fruit too.  

Congrats on your weight loss.  I'm sure if you stick with this, you will lose the additional that you want to.  

[hckynut]

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@winamac1 wrote:

80% of losing weight is diet-20% is exercise.

@winamac1

If only that were the true percentages for every human body. For me personally, it is more like 70-30%, with the high number being vigorous exercise.

Just like doctors and labs like to use the words "you are in the normal range". Who's normal range, and how many humans did they test to come up with "an average that = normal"?

I do not deal with the "normal/average" when it comes to physiology connected with each individual's human body. I want to see Numbers and How those numbers were acquired.

Personally if I used the 80%-20 percent you are using? No way would I have been able to vary my weight often to fit the sport activity in which I was participating.

This is my personal experience and also working with hundreds of runners and ice skaters, along with people not anywhere close to being as Sports oriented as myself.

hckynut(john)

[SaRina]

@hckynut, of course, every person will respond very individually to different ratios of diet:exercise.....as well as ratio of carbs to protein......but I agree with @Winamac regarding the 80:20.  This has absolutely proven true for me.

[SahmIam]

My son was at the Mayo Clinic for a year (I posted about his situation before). The hospital has an AMAZING library/resource center that covers everything there is for you to want to learn about. There and in every book store surrounding the main clinic as well as their other locations, you will find the book The Mayo Clinic Diet as well as the Mayo Clinic Book of Exercise... and the Mayo Clinic Eat Healthy Cookbook and so on.

I read them all because I was sitting in a chair next to my son for a year so... having the library was wonderful. I don't know if it's an updated version or not, but the one I was reading (and you can order directly from them) encouraged LOTS of grains (can't do it), LOTS of fruit (can't do that either) and so so protein. It did discourage booze, sugar, processed junk.

What I found more interesting was their research regarding cutting back on calories permanently as we age especially if a post menopausal female. I sat back when I saw the suggestion of no more than 900 calories a day when hitting the mid-60's.

Now, this was 4 years ago; recently, there have been a few papers presented supporting the lower calories as we age just as the Mayo Clinic had reported at least 6 years ago. Something to think about.

In any event, if you contact the Mayo Clinic, they will direct you to their pharmacy/book store (which is underground and part of the "Underworld" lol) and they can send one to you.

[Noel7]

It is possible to lose weight without exercise.  Disabled people in a wheelchair have done it.  Although it is better to exercise.

Potatoes, pasta, peas, etc. are allowed on WW.  It's all about portion control and eating the right thing, but you can have some of the above.

I think that's a good thing about WW because many people will not stay on a diet that deprives them of so much.

[Noel7]

Has the OP been back?  There's so much good information here for her.

[winamac1]

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@hckynut wrote:

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@winamac1 wrote:

80% of losing weight is diet-20% is exercise.

@winamac1

If only that were the true percentages for every human body. For me personally, it is more like 70-30%, with the high number being vigorous exercise.

Just like doctors and labs like to use the words "you are in the normal range". Who's normal range, and how many humans did they test to come up with "an average that = normal"?

I do not deal with the "normal/average" when it comes to physiology connected with each individual's human body. I want to see Numbers and How those numbers were acquired.

Personally if I used the 80%-20 percent you are using? No way would I have been able to vary my weight often to fit the sport activity in which I was participating.

This is my personal experience and also working with hundreds of runners and ice skaters, along with people not anywhere close to being as Sports oriented as myself.

hckynut(john)

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Good morning hckynut--I only gave that info as I"ve been told that by many fitness trainers, and I"ve read it online in many sources. I've also heard it on the morning shows from many informed registered dieticians--not just one source.

  As you stated, it varies from person to person, but I do believe a proper diet is the main reason people lose weight.  It take a lot of time at the gym to burn off one piece of pie.

Have a nice day.

http://vitals.lifehacker.com/exercise-vs-diet-which-is-more-important-for-weight-l-1677532039

How the Pros Do It

Members of the National Weight Control Registry are people who have lost weight and kept it off successfully for a minimum of one year. Of these people, 89% use a combination of diet and exercise, although 10% have had success using diet alone and 1% used exercise alone. However, research shows that the combination of exercise and diet is more effective than diet alone. Furthermore, while diet alone helps you lose weight, it is exercise that improves your physical fitness.

[winamac1]

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@SaRina wrote:

@hckynut@, of course, every person will respond very individually to different ratios of diet:exercise.....as well as ratio of carbs to protein......but I agree with @winamac1 regarding the 80:20.  This has absolutely proven true for me.

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Absolutely--it's mainly diet for sure!

[SaRina]

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@winamac1 wrote:

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@SaRina wrote:

@hckynut@, of course, every person will respond very individually to different ratios of diet:exercise.....as well as ratio of carbs to protein......but I agree with @winamac1 regarding the 80:20.  This has absolutely proven true for me.

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Absolutely--it's mainly diet for sure!

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@Hi @winamac1.  Yes, this info was in the fitness/bodybuilding world decades ago.  I was once sidelined from the gym for quite some time due to injuries.   After gaining weight, I revamped my eating, increasing protein and decreasing carbs.  I also cycled the amount of daily calories so that my metabolism wouldn't get used to a consistently reduced caloric intake, day after day, and slow down.  I lost the weight.

That's not to say exercise isn't important in conjunction with diet.  But if someone absolutely can't exercise for whatever reason....it is possible to control, if not lose weight by scrutinizing the diet down to every last potato and pea, lol.  I hear people complain about spending an hour or two in the gym every day and they can't lose weight.  That's when it's time to revamp the diet.