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10-04-2018 09:00 PM
@chickenbutt wrote:I live in a small city (pop around 250,000 last I knew) and I'm fine with that. I have traveled around the country and to numerous other countries and wherever I am I am not particularly fond of crowds. I like having space.
Also, being from LA, not fond of major traffic! At least up here that's seldom any concern at all. Only time traffic is aggravating is when they are working on the freeway, or any main thoroughfare, and have lanes closed off.
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Actually 250,000 would be a solid mid-sized city, depending on the size of the metro area, it could be borderline, large. (Though comparing it to LA, I totally get small 🙃
10-04-2018 09:07 PM - edited 10-04-2018 09:30 PM
I like cities. Japan's Tokyo is the most crowded city I've been to. One doesn't feel as crowded as the Japanese are very skillful at not being in anyone's face, even if your face is 1/4" away on a rush hour bus. It's not a noisy city nonetheless--people have been sharing tight space in Japan for a long time. I read once that it is the size of California except that because of mountain ranges, the liveable area is only 10 percent of CA's land area. It's population (I just Googled it) is 127 million. (Entire pop. of US [same google] is 325.7 million.) So imagine more than half our US population crowding into 10% of California! They are crowded.
Toronto, which I visited in 2016, was pretty crowded when I was there, one summer weekend. Toronto has a _wonderful_ science museum that was designed to appeal to children and was crowded with them.
10-05-2018 12:14 PM
@ALRATIBA wrote:I live in NYC ... so just about everywhere is not so crowded.
In Italy - Palermo (Sicily), Rome, Milan, Naples - I recall those cities having a lot of people on the streets. Palermo traffic is horrible. Actually worse than Manhattan!
@ALRATIBA, Rome is crazy busy with tourists and crowds. But worse than that is the traffic. Pedestrians don't seem to have the right of way there. You take your life in your hands when you step off the curb.
Watch out for those Vespas! (ok...teasing...sort of.)
10-05-2018 03:02 PM
Big pedestrian traffic has a lot to do with the population and geographic size of a city. The Phoenix metro area has 4.7 million people, but is spread over 500 square miles. Because of the huge geographic size, we are a driving culture rather than a pedestrian culture. That affects the amount of people you see on the streets.
10-05-2018 03:07 PM
@Mominohio wrote:
@chickenbutt wrote:I live in a small city (pop around 250,000 last I knew) and I'm fine with that. I have traveled around the country and to numerous other countries and wherever I am I am not particularly fond of crowds. I like having space.
Also, being from LA, not fond of major traffic! At least up here that's seldom any concern at all. Only time traffic is aggravating is when they are working on the freeway, or any main thoroughfare, and have lanes closed off.
I find other's perspective on this subject fascinating.
To me, a city with 250,000 people is not small. It is a mid sized city. We live near a city that has a population of 50,000 and that is closer to what I call a small city. And I consider a city to be different than a 'town'. Small city, to me would be 50,000 people, Small town would be something like 10,000 or less.
I was thinking about that, as I typed it, and I think you are more right than my perception was in saying it. I kind of went to - cities like LA or NY are large, and where I am is profoundly small in comparison. But the reality is probably more like the numbers you presented. ![]()
It kind of acts more like a small city, though, in that we don't have congestion of traffic, for the most part, or people. The only times/places I ever see thick crowds are at events like the Rib Cook-Off or some of the Hot August Nights events I used to experience.
10-05-2018 03:08 PM
@hellie jo wrote:If you don"t like crowds go to Rhyolite Nevada.
Must be small! I've lived in NV for 39 years and I've never even heard of it! ![]()
10-05-2018 03:45 PM
@chickenbutt wrote:
@Mominohio wrote:
@chickenbutt wrote:I live in a small city (pop around 250,000 last I knew) and I'm fine with that. I have traveled around the country and to numerous other countries and wherever I am I am not particularly fond of crowds. I like having space.
Also, being from LA, not fond of major traffic! At least up here that's seldom any concern at all. Only time traffic is aggravating is when they are working on the freeway, or any main thoroughfare, and have lanes closed off.
I find other's perspective on this subject fascinating.
To me, a city with 250,000 people is not small. It is a mid sized city. We live near a city that has a population of 50,000 and that is closer to what I call a small city. And I consider a city to be different than a 'town'. Small city, to me would be 50,000 people, Small town would be something like 10,000 or less.
I was thinking about that, as I typed it, and I think you are more right than my perception was in saying it. I kind of went to - cities like LA or NY are large, and where I am is profoundly small in comparison. But the reality is probably more like the numbers you presented.
It kind of acts more like a small city, though, in that we don't have congestion of traffic, for the most part, or people. The only times/places I ever see thick crowds are at events like the Rib Cook-Off or some of the Hot August Nights events I used to experience.
I think it's all in one's perspective @chickenbutt.
If you live in a large metro area, you think of a "city" as a place with a population of 200k or more. A town is up to 200k. 10k or less would be a village for me.
If you live in a rural area or in a small town/village, a population of 100k might seem to be a city. In a sparsely populated state, 50k may be a city.
10-05-2018 03:52 PM
Detroit lost 1 million people. When that happens the city also loses tax base and it shows up in all areas
The only plus is ,traffic is a lot lighter, the negative is, there is less money available for road repair
10-05-2018 04:03 PM
I live in a town with a population of about 100,000, so to me it is nice sized, and has plenty, however when we want to go to the theatre or a sporting event, we are about 30 minutes South of Milwaukee, and about 90 minutes North of Chicago, so I like where I live......
I too, have been to very large cities, and while I love the hustle and bustle of the city, I know I could not live there...But to me they are fun to visit!!!!!
10-05-2018 04:49 PM
Interesting comments, but I still am not clear on the OP's point.
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