MARINE PHOTO SCANDAL - Page 3

Tinkrbl44 · ‎08-23-2010

@Noel7 wrote:
@Tinkrbl44 wrote:
@AngusandBuddhasMom wrote:
@Jackaranda wrote:
Women were stupid to take them and the men were stupid to post them. Young people do not always have the maturity we think they do.
Just because a woman takes a photo does not give anyone the right to publish it without her consent. That is blaming the victim for something she has not agreed to.

The same as saying she asked for it.
@AngusandBuddhasMom

Yes, ITA .... but you always have to weigh the risk in your actions.

It's like leaving a $50 bill on the sidewalk, and someone picks it up and walks away. Yes, it was wrong for the person to take it, but the likelihood someone would do that is pretty high, don't you think?

Same with nude photos, IMO.
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@Tinkrbl44

Are you saying women Marines should never shower or undress for bed?

I'm surprised you are blaming women who had no idea they were being photographed in the altogether.

These are women, some in the front lines, who fight for our country while some silly women on a BB blame them for being a victim.

@Noel7

Oh boy. I thought I had already made myself VERY clear, but I guess I need to repeat myself for you.

I am NOT blaming women who were photographed without their consent. I NEVER said that.

In my OP, I was referencing the woman interviewed this morning and the assumption that consensual photos would be kept under lock and key. Got it?

Hopefully that clears it up for you and now you can take your righteous indignation elsewhere.

sidsmom · ‎11-25-2011

Question:

What situation are women naked & pictures

are taken without their consent?

Is it implied OTHER women are taking those photos, say,

in a shower setting & sharing in this closed FB page?

ChynnaBlue · ‎05-22-2012

@SeaMaiden wrote:
Men are men, boy will be boys.... they NEVER GROW UP.

This is an unacceptable attitude that allows boys and men to get away with things like this. It says we accept their behavior because their genetic makeup means they cannot help themselves. The fact that most men do not behave this ways says that's simply not true - they can control and some men choose not to. We must stop saying this and excusing their poor behaviors.

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SaRina · ‎04-17-2015

I just heard one of the women interviewed on our local news. She had consented to being videotaped. In the interview, she acknowledged that she had made a big mistake in doing so. Nevertheless....

There is blame to go around. For every action, there is a reaction (or consequence) in this case.

SusieQ_2 · ‎03-27-2012

@sidsmom wrote:
Question:
What situation are women naked & pictures
are taken without their consent?

Is it implied OTHER women are taking those photos, say,
in a shower setting & sharing in this closed FB page?

That's my question too @sidsmom. I think the story says the photos were posted without the women's consent, not that the nude photos were taken without consent, but I'm still reading.

Noel7 · ‎03-09-2010

Some of the pix were taken from private accounts and distributed without consent.

A lot of the problem is that the group sharing them is violent and has threatened other Marines, telling them to keep quiet or their daughters and wives will be raped.

Story here:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/03/05/marine-corps-probing-nude-photos/98790930/

Mj12 · ‎03-09-2010

Brennan's report includes a lurid account detailing how some members allegedly advocated for one woman to be sexually assaulted. It suggests some victims were stalked and photographed in secret while others may have taken the compromising photos themselves, intending them to be private, only to be betrayed by whoever shared them online.

https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/articles/marines-nude-photo-scandal-congress-ncis

sidsmom · ‎11-25-2011

@SusieQ_2 wrote:
@sidsmom wrote:
Question:
What situation are women naked & pictures
are taken without their consent?

Is it implied OTHER women are taking those photos, say,
in a shower setting & sharing in this closed FB page?
That's my question too @sidsmom. I think the story says the photos were posted without the women's consent, not that the nude photos were taken without consent, but I'm still reading.

@SusieQ_2

I, too, am reading everything I can about this.

At first glance, my opinion only, I'm thinking a large # of these women

are OK with the photos....but they're outraged with the COMMENTARY. Many of the comments were explicit & talking about illegal activities about their personal photos. I think that's what the issue is. Again, I'm learning about this, like everyone else, so...my opinion might change.

MoJoV · ‎10-01-2010

@SeaMaiden wrote:
Men are men, boy will be boys.... they NEVER GROW UP.

MINE DID.

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Mz iMac · ‎07-26-2014

(CNN)The Naval Criminal Investigative Service (NCIS) has opened an investigation into the online posting of potentially hundreds of explicit photos of current and former female Marines and other service members, CNN has confirmed.

A private Facebook group called "Marines United" contained a link to a Google Drive folder, where the photos were being stored, a US defense official told CNN. Members on the site solicited others to submit photos of women without their knowledge. The cloud storage folder has been removed at the request of the military, the official said. It was not clear to the Defense Department how many current and former Marines may be involved in potential wrongdoing. A former Marine originally brought the matter to the attention of the Marine Corps last month.

"We are thankful that Thomas Brennan, a Marine veteran, notified the Marine Corps and NCIS about what he witnessed on the 'Marines United' page. It allowed us to take immediate action to have the explicit photos taken down and to prepare to support potential victims. We are exploring what actions should be taken to best address this form of harassment in the future," Marine Corps spokesman Capt. Ryan Alvis said in a statement.

Brennan founded The War Horse, a military news site investigating defense and veterans issues, which first reported the allegations on a separate site, Reveal, run by the Center for Investigative Reporting.

Because of the ongoing investigation, officials would not comment specifically on the case. However, Alvis added that "the Marine Corps is deeply concerned about allegations regarding the derogatory online comments and sharing of salacious photographs in a closed website.

This behavior destroys morale, erodes trust, and degrades the individual."

Gen. Robert B. Neller, commandant of the Marine Corps, also declined to comment on the specifics of the case. "For anyone to target one of our Marines, online or otherwise, in an inappropriate manner, is distasteful and shows an absence of respect," Neller said. "I expect every Marine to demonstrate the highest integrity and loyalty to fellow Marines at all times, on duty, off-duty, and online."

Sgt. Maj. Ronald Green, the Corps' highest-ranking noncommissioned officer, said these allegations go against the core values of the Marine Corps. "There is no place for this type of demeaning or degrading behavior in our Corps -- this includes our actions online," Green said. "We need to be brutally honest with ourselves and each other. This behavior hurts fellow Marines, family members, and civilians. It is a direct attack on our ethos and legacy."

"Ultimately we must take a look in the mirror and decide whether we are part of the problem or the solution," Green said.

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