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Re: Job Issue - need to vent... what would you do?

So true,Wookie! Thank you,Slate...I double checked to make sure I didn't miss something...
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Re: Job Issue - need to vent... what would you do?

Care givers with good intentions get in sticky situations all the time with clients who are looking to take advantage. You need to set boundaries right off the bat with clients and keep the visit strictly professional as to not confuse the client. This man may or may not have dementia, but for some reason he thought he could get fresh with you and get away with it. You did all the right things after the fact, but save yourself a lot of grief in the future and keep it strictly professional.

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Re: Job Issue - need to vent... what would you do?

To answer you questions, what I saw as insulting to me, was right in the middle of Joey's post, where she found it "outrageous" that "we continue to high-five and pronounce you go girl," to the op" "for agreeing with her." To me-in my own opinion-that is an insult, and that is how I took it.

Perhaps some of you didn't see it, as the whole post is in one small paragraph. I understand that that can happen when you don't post on a computer, but rather are posting from a phone, or some other type of mobile device-that certain things may be difficult to see.

As I think about this situation, and having been in uncomfortable situations in the past with clients myself, in my opinion, I don't think that anyone would know what they would do, until they are in an awkward situation themselves.

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I was and WOULD NEVER ask for opinions here... I feel bad for the O.P but she has asked about various subjects often enough to know how things turn out....
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On 3/12/2015 northernlights said:
On 3/12/2015 Joey Heatherton said: It's sad and disheartening to me that the pseudonymous Leroy continues to be referred to as a "perv" and some kind of "dirty old man"...........he is a patient/client living at home but still in need of a professional healthcare aide..........JustJules was not from MerryMaids......unfortunately Leroy was paired with an aide who was either not-trained or emotionally unprepared to deal with an unsettling event.............there is no comparison between an inappropriate, housebound and dependent patient......and sexual harassment/assault by an employer or supervisor or coworker or the traveling IT pro who arrives to scrub our computers of malware.......also, I did not comment in my earlier posts about JustJules' ultimate handling of the situation but now I will........screaming at a patient is never acceptable.........And then walking out on a patient when you've been assigned the duty is dereliction.........that we continue to high-five and pronounce "you go girl/you did everything right," is outrageous to me......reputable agencies have 24/7 emergency contact numbers for their aides or for concerned families to reach out when regular business hrs are ended...........if an aide has ANY kind of situation where she cannot complete her assignment then it is mandatory that she arrange to be relieved of duty by another aide or supervisor BEFORE she walks out on a patient............would anyone leave a small child alone because the little one wouldn't stop crying or was somehow difficult?.........JustJules, if you read this I am not trying to pile on...........there are over 200 replies here now, most well meaning and helpful...........first step is to PLS get your own cell.......

It's not necessary for you to insult those of us who actually agreed with her.

In my opinion, she felt threatened by him, and she acted in a way that she felt was best for her.

Where I place the blame, is on the agency actually, for not training her in how to handle this situation were it to come up at some point in time, and for not telling her about this client, if they knew about any of his particular behaviors, and didn't warn her about them ahead of time, before she went to work with him.

If anything, they should have male aides working with him, as others have already mentioned.

If there was a 24/7 contact number for her to call at her agency, I am sure that she would have known about it when she signed on with them.

If I was in her particular situation and it was late at night, and there was no one else on-call for me to contact at the agency, then I probably would have left, as well.

Sometimes you do the best that you can do, given what you have to work with, and then you learn what to do next time, when you get some direction.

I have been in situations myself, where I have been verbally "hit on" by clients, too, in the past. Believe me, it is no fun. I did nothing to even "encourage" them, at all. Some of them are so lonely, that they are just encouraged by someone being naturally kind to them in a professional role.

I don't even know what a crying child comparison has to even do with this thread, anyway.

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Thank you, northernlights ! WISE WORDS. Smile

Yes -- the other posters (who are SOOO transparent) are piling on the OP, twisting the situation, and patting themselves on the back for reducing/ridiculing the OP's Post into something is wasn't. They've created a mountain from an anthill, with their inflammatory remarks, and MOST of them have NO IDEA about the situation /credentialing required for the OP to have, to do her job (Home Health Care), which varies from state to state nor the Regs for The Agencies in those states. Their previous posts show that THEY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO STIR THE POT. {#emotions_dlg.thumbdown}

THESE posters are, apparently, acting vindictively towards Jules (the OP) for posts she did in the past (that the posters took OFFENSE TO) and these posters somehow FEEL ENTITLED TO BELITTLE her on her thread, where MANY posters have given her Positive advice -- AS OPPOSED TO THESE Posters, who REALLY need to GET A LIFE!

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....and to add..things can spiral out of control really fast in a patient's home environment...... It takes practice, practice, practice and proper training, supervision, and experience.
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On 3/12/2015 northernlights said:

To answer you questions, what I saw as insulting to me, was right in the middle of Joey's post, where she found it "outrageous" that "we continue to high-five and pronounce you go girl," to the op" "for agreeing with her." To me-in my own opinion-that is an insult, and that is how I took it.

Perhaps some of you didn't see it, as the whole post is in one small paragraph. I understand that that can happen when you don't post on a computer, but rather are posting from a phone, or some other type of mobile device-that certain things may be difficult to see.

As I think about this situation, and having been in uncomfortable situations in the past with clients myself, in my opinion, I don't think that anyone would know what they would do, until they are in an awkward situation themselves.

I totally disagree with you. The OP isn't "anyone" --she is allegedly a trained aide or so she says.

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Maryebrown-yet it is ok to call a man we know nothing about a perv...? Alrighty then...
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On 3/12/2015 Alley Catvocate said: I was and WOULD NEVER ask for opinions here...

Why?

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Re: Job Issue - need to vent... what would you do?

Thank you to all who understood the intent of my last post here........I appreciate that you confirmed my opinions on the subject........in the last almost-two years I've been introduced to the world of home healthcare agencies and aides due to my poor mother's decline...........but this thread is not about me, and I don't want to derail it and risk having it poofed before JustJules can read all the replies.......Thanks again......Smiley Happy