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On It · ‎03-15-2021

@Sooner wrote:
@On It wrote:
In some states workers in grocery stores and other service industries are paid a good wage. In my state, they are not. These workers have to have more than one job to survive. No wonder they won't return to a minimum wage job or low wage job until they are out of options. I wouldn't either.

Corporations are all about the bottom line. They will not pay fair wages until they are forced to do so. Because of the worker shortage some in our area have increased their pay. Hopefully, others will follow.
@On It Just remember--corporations don't pay people; we pay them. So how much are you looking forward to paying in increased wages?

This costs everyone. When minimum wages increase your wage goes down. I'm not saying anything for or against, but we are going to see amazing increases in prices and interest rates in the very near future I believe.

I think those two things will far outpace any wage increases, social security benefit increases, or things like that. We'll just have less money to spend outside of necessities.

The corporations are making huge profits at the expense of their workers. Their only interest is earnings. They will do as little as they can for the people they employ.

Kachina624 · ‎03-10-2010

@Sooner wrote:
People are not going to work when they get paid to stay home. How hard is that to understand?

@Sooner That'll all be over on September 6th (?) Labor Day the benefits subsidity expires. The handouts will be no more. So sad.

New Mexico☀️Land Of Enchantment

Kachina624 · ‎03-10-2010

@Anonymous032819 wrote:

@Sooner wrote:
People are not going to work when they get paid to stay home. How hard is that to understand?

If employers paid a wage that people could actually live off of, the workers would return.

It's a no brainer that with the rising cost of everything, making $12/hr just isn't going to cut it when you have rent/mortgage to pay, + utilities + other bills.

If one takes home 2k a month working at a job they may not like vs getting more on unemployment, it's a no-brainer.

You go where the money is, where you can actually cover your bills.

Also, more people are going back to school to update their skills, so it isn't just "bums on unemployment not wanting to work".

Add to that, people aren't interested in working minimum wage jobs.

They deserve to be paid a living wage, and not paid pennies, while the CEO's make millions/billions.

@Anonymous032819 I disagree with your theory. Employees should be paid a wage commensurate with skills, knowledge and ability, not their desired standard of living or their ability to produce children. If you pay them a nice, fat salary for performing unskilled labor, you remove all incentive to get training or education which will improve their employability and value to the labor force. IMO for instance, no 17 year old high school kid working at McDonald's is worth $15/hr. Why should he or she put forth the effort to go to that community College when now earning enough to maintain and pay for that beloved car? Times passes, he gets married, has a couple kids and because he must work overtime to support a family, he's unable to get any formal training to prepare him for a career. Stuck in dead-end job. Happens all the time.

New Mexico☀️Land Of Enchantment

Frontporchgal · ‎07-07-2021

Saw an article this morning that said transportation and shipping was the issue. Could be worse in some regions than others. If the frozen food and dairy and produce shelves were bare, could be the store was having a maintenance issue with cooling/ refrigeration. The Kroger where I shop has one case in the freezer aisle that always seems to be broken while everything else is working fine.

Sooner · ‎03-10-2010

@Kachina624 I do think the incentive to work is vanishing now, and we don't value the act of working as we used to. It isn't a great source or pride and a goal so much now to have a job.

We live in a world of entitlement, and I don't think now a lot of people stop to think about how we get a certain standard of life and what it takes to get that--and I don't think our education systems stress that.

For most people life is a struggle and it is hard. I don't think kids are being prepared for that in many cases.

Frontporchgal · ‎07-07-2021

I know in Walgreens there were several empty shelves. I asked about it and the mgr said they had plenty of stock...but it was sitting in the big truck behind the store because they don't have the workers to unload it or stock it on the shelves. It is super hot. Hope none of the stuff on the truck doesn't ruin due to the heat, like lipsticks.

Kachina624 · ‎03-10-2010

@nekodaisy I get amused at people who get "burned out" after a short stint on a job. I worked 32 years on a job that was hard and often stressful. I had a child to support and couldn't afford the luxury of burn out. As soon as a job becomes difficult, many people bail. That's the younger generation.

New Mexico☀️Land Of Enchantment

Sooner · ‎03-10-2010

@bikerbabe wrote:
I’ve said before some of these retail employers refuse to give you a set schedule which can make childcare impossible. It also limits the ability to get a second job.

I read a week or two ago (sorry, I don’t recall the source) that many service and retail workers moved on to different and presumably better jobs and don’t plan to go back.

I really hate these assumptions that everyone is a lazy deadbeat who refuses to work. And, if someone is getting “rich” off of measly unemployment, then that’s a pretty strong indictment of their previous employer.

@bikerbabe We can't assume anything about people. However, having grown up in a town with people who are happy not being rich, but doing as they please and happy without what most people want to live are happy are fine with living off of available funds for being unemployed.

If you stop and think what is available free or at little or no cost or subsidized today, it makes you think.

If you haven't lived seeing it, you can't understand it. Not everyone wants the same things out of life. Not everyone thinks they'd like a job. . .

And no, wages can't be geared toward the need, but toward the value for the work. Not everyone works to make a standard of living.