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[Moonchilde]

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@Burnsite wrote:

Not to criticize the OP, but it got me to thinking....

Those terms (introvert/extrovert) are from Jung, early 20th century. They are probably due for an overhaul.  They don't work for me, as it depends. Sometimes yes, sometimes no.  Maybe it's time for an update for those "either/or" terms in general.  People are not one thing or another, but many things at different times.

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The entire area has been a WIP for many years, and will continue to be.  No one is 100% one or the other all the time. One of the hopeful purposes of the thread was to get people reading, investigating, testing if they're motivated. None of the literature, whether it's MBTI or another, newer classification WIP, puts people in boxes. It's people who put themselves in the boxes. Most of the sites and tests say right up front that none of it is written in stone and it's a guideline.

[Moonchilde]

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@HomeShoppingLover87 wrote:

@Moonchilde @MaggieMack I'm an INFJ too!!! Yay, I have a few fellow hyper-intuitive, misunderstood mutants.

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LOL, love it!

[segrl21]

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@Moonchilde wrote:

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@segrl21 wrote:

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@Moonchilde wrote:

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@FLgardener wrote:

Being an introvert is a personality type, not a defect that needs to be fixed.

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LOL - who said it was? Not me, although many Extroverts look on it as such.

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When I worked overseas for a bit had to go to a training camp and we had a personality expert gave us a Myers Brigg. He then divided the room between the extroverts/introverts & had us ask questions, for the other side. Some of misconceptions introverts had about extroverts, they aways had to be around people, needy and show offs. It was very eye opening, especially as an introvert because I had misconceptions about extroverts. They basically had fun with us, laughing at some point. One guy even said he could say anything he wanted an introverts wouldn't challenge him. The expert then says to the extroverts, "you vastly outnumber the introverts" and then added "you should be nicer because in reality introverts are often leaders, teachers, inventors, bosses, even Presidents and often CEOs". He jokingly added "masters meet your slaves". It was funny and it calmed the room but his point was, we often elect introverts as our managers & leaders. Yet we still have a lot of misconception & anti-social labels for them. Btw..it has little to do with shy, versus outgoing, its just where you go to destress, process information & how you make decisions.  You can be outgoing and still be an introvert. 

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Interesting that when I think about it, I don't have a lot of preconceived notions about extroverts that are the solid, "they're all like that" kind. The only thing that comes to mind is that most of the time they need/want others around to bounce off of and get feedback from. And that some manifest as loudmouths (compared to Introverts) whose behavior can be perceived as bragging.

I phrase it like this because I spent many years deep in MBTI-land on various forums that crossed back and forth between my Type and other Types including discussions of Extrovert behavior and motivations.

We became accustomed to each Type knocking the others to various degrees in conversation but not nastily; it aided understanding between people who looked at life completely differently and whose thought processes were completely different than our own. We learned that X behavior was not always someone being deliberately rude, sometimes it was just a manifestation of how Type XXXX's mind works, which might be very different - and much more different between specific Types than between Introverts and Extroverts.

It taught us how to get along with a wide variety of people. To recognize that we all see the world differently. That we might not appreciate each other's methods much but we could at least acknowledge that they WERE just different ways of seeing things, not deliberate combativeness.

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Yes, a lot of misconceptions from both types. The workshop was great though because when we asked questions, a lot of our questions were based on misconceptions. When the other side answered you realize humans aren't so simple as the boxes we put them in and are intricate, even if they has a stronger leaning toward one personality trait. 

[Moonchilde]

@segrl21, I was on a forum for my Type that welcomed other Types to post as well. We all kind of assumed we were the same Type but no one stated their Type unless they felt like it. After a poster had posted a few times, depending on what they said and mostly how they stated it, the "guessing game" began because it was assumed  (nearly always correctly) they weren't the group's Type. It was interesting to have the poster explain or elaborate on their choice of words, attitude perceived but not actually there, and that kind of stuff. Since it was All About Type (no matter which one), people were not as defensive about being quizzed/questioned/challenged as people in an unrelated forum would be. It was a great learning experience.

[LilacTree]

@Libbylady, I admire your signature quote by Dawkins.  We can't discuss it, but I just wanted you to know that. 

[wilma]

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@winamac1 wrote:

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@dex wrote:

So you are saying that introverts are just not social?I am not saying this to be mean but just asking.I always thought like you stated that they were shy or maybe had some health problems that they were overwhelmed by.I can be both introvert and extrovert depending on how I feel that day.I love to chat with anyone but if I don't feel well then I would prefer to be alone or with those I am close to.

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I"m extremely social and have many friends.  That being said, I'm more of an introvert than an extrovert.  I think they call it ambivert-in the middle. 

I don't like being overcommitted and recharge my spirit often by being alone.  I like one on conversations more than conversations involving groups of women.

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@winamac1

I am totally with you on the one to one vs. a group of women conversing. 

[60sgirl]

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@Moonchilde wrote:

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@HomeShoppingLover87 wrote:

@Moonchilde @MaggieMack I'm an INFJ too!!! Yay, I have a few fellow hyper-intuitive, misunderstood mutants.

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LOL, love it!

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As am I. 

[Marienkaefer2]

I'm an introvert, and yet I've spent most of my life in a career that involves talking to large groups of people.

I have no problem doing that (as long as I'm prepared!)..but the difference is, afterwards, I need to be able to go back to my office, come home, or whatever, and "recharge."  Meaning:  have some down time, think about my next project, etc.

On vacations, I don't like to have every day packed.  I like to plan a few well thought out activities one day, then have the next day be quiet.

I think basically, introverts just need down time in between energetic times to recharge, relax, recover! lol

Extroverts, on the other hand, thrive on activity, lots of things going on at once.

That's my take.

[winamac1]

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@Marienkaefer2 wrote:

I'm an introvert, and yet I've spent most of my life in a career that involves talking to large groups of people.

I have no problem doing that (as long as I'm prepared!)..but the difference is, afterwards, I need to be able to go back to my office, come home, or whatever, and "recharge."  Meaning:  have some down time, think about my next project, etc.

On vacations, I don't like to have every day packed.  I like to plan a few well thought out activities one day, then have the next day be quiet.

I think basically, introverts just need down time in between energetic times to recharge, relax, recover! lol

Extroverts, on the other hand, thrive on activity, lots of things going on at once.

That's my take.

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ITA w/ your comments here.  I'm very comfortable in front of people, and I do presentations to groups often.  I'm in sales and deal with many people a day.  That being said, I do not recharge my spirit by being with a group of people.  I need some time to decompress.  I don't want every weekend day and night to be packed, and I shy away from more than 2 commitments with friends a week.

 As I stated before, I'm comfortable in groups, but I much prefer one on one conversations or conversations with a few women that I know well.

 I have a BFF that's a total extrovert.  She is with groups of people or one on one most of the time, and she has a hard time being alone. Her spirit recharges with being out with friends and groups of people.  She likes to be overcommitted though she complains, lol, at times that she is.

[ladyroxanne]

i agree with the above 2 posts.  that is me to a tee. exactly.