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04-02-2015 07:08 PM
On 4/2/2015 NoelSeven said:On 4/2/2015 eloise said:It is, and a well known one, but CA is not a state built around cattle or sheep ranching, it's a produce state.On 4/2/2015 NoelSeven said:On 4/2/2015 sidsmom said:Not here. CA produces the most produce in the nation and for the nation.On 4/2/2015 NoelSeven said:On 4/2/2015 sidsmom said:"If California need water......
Reduce livestock production. Eat less meat.
It's going for produce, mostly.
Unfortunately livestock needs more water than anything....for the alfalfa, feed, pastures, as well as water for the animal, water to manufacture the meat, etc.etc.....so, so, so much more than produce.
Interesting point though.
You are exactly right Noel.
04-02-2015 07:10 PM
On 4/2/2015 melfie said:Allan Savory disputes this. He was able to show moving large herds of livestock vastly improves grasslands and can even reverse desertification. http://www.ted.com/talks/allan_savory_how_to_green_the_world_s_deserts_and_reverse_climate_change?la...
melfie: Savory has been dismissed by some but there is an excellent presentation by Richard Teague, a range scientist at the Texas A&M - I believe it was in London - that supports Savory.
04-02-2015 07:11 PM
On 4/2/2015 Preds said:We can put pipelines all over, but we can't get water to our own? We have more than we need on this side and would love to send it where it's needed. Why can't we?
Not lucrative for oil gazillionaires.
04-02-2015 07:17 PM
On 4/2/2015 NoelSeven said:On 4/2/2015 eloise said:It is, and a well known one, but CA is not a state built around cattle or sheep ranching, it's a produce state.On 4/2/2015 NoelSeven said:On 4/2/2015 sidsmom said:Not here. CA produces the most produce in the nation and for the nation.On 4/2/2015 NoelSeven said:On 4/2/2015 sidsmom said:"If California need water......
Reduce livestock production. Eat less meat.
It's going for produce, mostly.
Unfortunately livestock needs more water than anything....for the alfalfa, feed, pastures, as well as water for the animal, water to manufacture the meat, etc.etc.....so, so, so much more than produce.
Interesting point though.
ummm.......that's a negatory lone ranger..........cattle ranching has been a part of Cali since the Spanish Ranch days and STILL goes on.......granted not in SF.......but not all Cali is city...........Tejon Ranch is still in operation here and it's been here forever..........we've got 38 MILLION acres of private and publicly owned rangeland in Cali....with grazing cattle on them....................................................raven
edited to add.............most of the land used for agriculture is going to housing........I seen acre after acre of farmland turn into homes here........can't blame the cows for that
04-02-2015 07:19 PM
On 4/2/2015 Cakers1 said:On 4/2/2015 melfie said:Allan Savory disputes this. He was able to show moving large herds of livestock vastly improves grasslands and can even reverse desertification. http://www.ted.com/talks/allan_savory_how_to_green_the_world_s_deserts_and_reverse_climate_change?la...
melfie: Savory has been dismissed by some but there is an excellent presentation by Richard Teague, a range scientist at the Texas A&M - I believe it was in London - that supports Savory.
I will watch it. Thank you!
04-02-2015 07:22 PM
Until a state law is passed prohibiting the use of swimming pools, pool owners in CA and NV will continue to refill them from evaporation so the pool pump goes on...if the water level is too low, it won't. If this isn't done the pool water will turn green and attract mosquitoes including those that carry the West Nile virus; then you'll really have something to complain about.
04-02-2015 07:23 PM
On 4/2/2015 raven-blackbird said:It seems you missed the point. Our economy is not built around ranching. It is built around produce. No one said there is no ranching or history of ranching here.On 4/2/2015 NoelSeven said:On 4/2/2015 eloise said:It is, and a well known one, but CA is not a state built around cattle or sheep ranching, it's a produce state.On 4/2/2015 NoelSeven said:On 4/2/2015 sidsmom said:Not here. CA produces the most produce in the nation and for the nation.On 4/2/2015 NoelSeven said:On 4/2/2015 sidsmom said:"If California need water......
Reduce livestock production. Eat less meat.
It's going for produce, mostly.
Unfortunately livestock needs more water than anything....for the alfalfa, feed, pastures, as well as water for the animal, water to manufacture the meat, etc.etc.....so, so, so much more than produce.
Interesting point though.
ummm.......that's a negatory lone ranger..........cattle ranching has been a part of Cali since the Spanish Ranch days and STILL goes on.......granted not in SF.......but not all Cali is city...........Tejon Ranch is still in operation here and it's been here forever..........we've got 38 MILLION acres of private and publicly owned rangeland in Cali....with grazing cattle on them....................................................raven
04-02-2015 07:26 PM
On 4/2/2015 MomOf4 said:You, too, Mom And that is a large part of what makes CA the 8th leading economy IN THE WORLD.On 4/2/2015 NoelSeven said:On 4/2/2015 eloise said:It is, and a well known one, but CA is not a state built around cattle or sheep ranching, it's a produce state.On 4/2/2015 NoelSeven said:On 4/2/2015 sidsmom said:Not here. CA produces the most produce in the nation and for the nation.On 4/2/2015 NoelSeven said:On 4/2/2015 sidsmom said:"If California need water......
Reduce livestock production. Eat less meat.
It's going for produce, mostly.
Unfortunately livestock needs more water than anything....for the alfalfa, feed, pastures, as well as water for the animal, water to manufacture the meat, etc.etc.....so, so, so much more than produce.
Interesting point though.
You are exactly right Noel.
04-02-2015 07:28 PM
A lot of the golf courses here in the Tucson area use reclaimed water to keep the courses green. Not that many folks have lawns at their homes here in the desert, but golfers like green grass to play on I guess.
04-02-2015 07:28 PM
On 4/2/2015 Ilikeshade said:Until a state law is passed prohibiting the use of swimming pools, pool owners in CA and NV will continue to refill them from evaporation so the pool pump goes on...if the water level is too low, it won't. If this isn't done the pool water will turn green and attract mosquitoes including those that carry the West Nile virus; then you'll really have something to complain about.
In California we have Mosquito Abatement.........they send drones over areas and look for these pools.......IF you have a pool that's green, you get a notice to fix it.....you don't you get a ticket....................................raven
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