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[AngusandBuddhasMom]

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@LTT1 wrote:

@esmeraldagooch@MaggieMack

After 911, my thought was how and why were these terrorists allowed to take commercial pilot lessons in the USA?  We can monitor that.

What we can't monitor is the behavior of aliens allowed into our country.  So why are we even considering this?

Remember the Asians (Japanese) in "camps" in California that were POWs?  That was a poor way to "contain" the enemy.

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The Japanese Americans were not our enemies what this country did to its fellow countryman was horrible. There were families inprisioned who had sons fighting for the US against its real enemies.  Also American Germans,Italians and Hungarians were also inprisioned. How backward and ridiculous is that.

[SaRina]

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@Irshgrl31201 wrote:

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@raven-blackbird wrote:

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@DiAnne wrote:

So many bloody cruel wars in history have been fought over religion.  This is another one. 

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no war has ever been fought over religion........although many have hid behind that moniker...........all wars have been fought for power, wealth and acquisition....................................raven

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I agree. It is also time for the moderate Muslims of the world to stand up and take their religion back. 

Do i think that all Muslims are terrorists? Absolutely not. Right now intelligence bureaus across the world number Muslim radicals at 15-25% (that is approximately the population of the US) of the population of Islam. The peaceful Muslims are irrelevant though just as the 90% of Germans  that were peaceful were. Nazis only counted for about 10% of the population of Germany but when the peaceful majority did nothing, look at the death and destruction caused by the radicals. It is time for the moderate Muslims to stand up and speak out and separate themselves from the radicals and let the radicals know they will not have their religion tainted. When I see those nut jobs from Westboro church causing problems, I also see a large presence of moderate Christians protesting them by any means necessary. I don't see the same type of thing with the moderate Muslims. 

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I just started reading this thread so this may have been said already.  What I bolded is the essential piece of the puzzle IMO.  Without assertive action by Muslims in the Middle East and all over the world, there is no amount of manpower that will be able to defeat this evil.

[biancardi]

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@RainCityWoman wrote:

I still refuse to condemn a whole group of people based on the actions of a few from their group. The violence and destruction that has existed throughout history has occurred originally from a few members of a larger group, though the larger group may not have condoned what was done.  Once you condemn all Muslims in this country, you condemn the very fiber of our ideology. We have criminals in every size, shape, enthnicity, and color in this country, but we don't brand every citizen as a criminal. We've had other terrorists in this country, homegrown ones, too. Radical extremists exist in all cultures, and you can only fight them on extremist threat at a time.

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agreed

A friend of mine on IG posted this the other day - just as reminder that the majority of Muslims are not terrorists (it is sad that it even had to be posted...but it seems that people don't realize that Muslims are in great numbers around the world, without issues)

[AngusandBuddhasMom]

No what is sad is that the so called moderate muslims are not speaking out louder then those who aim to drag them into this. I know they to are targeted but they can no longer be quiet.

[biancardi]

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@AngusandBuddhasMom wrote:

No what is sad is that the so called moderate muslims are not speaking out louder then those who aim to drag them into this. I know they to are targeted but they can no longer be quiet.

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and why SHOULD THEY? Why aren't those types of commendations put on other religious groups who do hateful and hurtful things? I see and read a lot of horrible things that other religious groups do, and I do not see a lot of commendation for that from the moderates - what I do read are people agreeing with them.

And moderate muslims have been speaking up. It isn't being reported widely on "some" channels as that would burst their narrative.  It also doesn't help that a lot of Americans are ready with the pitchforks to go after any Muslim, so it is difficult for them to speak up.  Perhaps they don't want to be harrassed when their loving neighbors find out they are Muslim.

[AngusandBuddhasMom]

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@AngusandBuddhasMom wrote:

No what is sad is that the so called moderate Muslims are not speaking out louder then those who aim to drag them into this. I know they to are targeted but they can no longer be quiet.

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And before we get on the pity train for moderates,  again Israeli Men Women and Children for the past two years have been brutality targeted and murdered because they live and are Jews. No public condemnation except towards the victim by the west. The EU has allowed products being sold in Europe that come from Israel to be marked as such. The targeting to that degree has not happened since WWII and we know how that ended. So sorry these people need to stand up and condemn those who are killing in their name.

[AngusandBuddhasMom]

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@biancardi wrote:

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@AngusandBuddhasMom wrote:

No what is sad is that the so called moderate muslims are not speaking out louder then those who aim to drag them into this. I know they to are targeted but they can no longer be quiet.

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and why SHOULD THEY? Why aren't those types of commendations put on other religious groups who do hateful and hurtful things? I see and read a lot of horrible things that other religious groups do, and I do not see a lot of commendation for that from the moderates - what I do read are people agreeing with them. And moderate muslims have been speaking up. It isn't being reported widely on "some" channels as that would burst their narrative.

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As for "some" channels that is ridiculous because I have seen many speak up on "some" channels .

[MaggieMack]

Well, you know what they say about statistics, you can manipulate them to agree with whatever answer you want. I googled yesterday about how many Muslims were jihadists, and that page estimated 5-7% of the Muslim population of 1.5 billion. At 5%, that would be 75 million jihadists. Then I read in the Christian Science Monitor that the radicals and beyond are estimated to be 15-20%, or 180-300 million dedicated to the destruction of the Western world.

I don't personally know anyone who is against Muslims per se, but many that are against the jihadist agenda. Just because we are against jihadists doesn't automatically made us anti-Muslim.