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Sticker shock: Why are glasses so expensive?
One factor: the world's largest eyewear company, the Italian firm Luxottica, controls a big chunk of the business
2014
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The following is a script from "Sticker Shock" which originally aired on Oct. 7, 2012, and was rebroadcast on June 15, 2014. Lesley Stahl is the correspondent. Shachar Bar-On, producer.
For many of us, summer means a new pair of sunglasses. But bet your eyes popped when you saw the price tag. If you don't go to places like Walmart or Costco, you could easily be spending hundreds and hundreds of dollars for a pair that cost just $30 15 years ago. Talk about sticker shock!
Luxottica: Giving sight60 MINUTES: SEGMENT EXTRAS
Luxottica: Giving sight
And it's not as though things have changed that much: they're still made of a couple of pieces of plastic or wire, some screws and glass. Why should a pair of glasses cost more than an iPad? Well, as we first reported in October 2012, one answer is because one company controls a big chunk of the business.
Never has there been so much choice: Ray-Bans, Oakleys, glasses for running, and skiing, and even reading. A staggering variety of colors and designers. You'd think the competition would force the prices down.
One reason it hasn't is a little known but very big Italian company called Luxottica. If you own a nice pair of specs or shades, they're probably theirs. Luxottica is the biggest eyewear company on earth. It shuns publicity, but CEO Andrea Guerra invited us in for a look. And it was eye-opening.
Lesley Stahl: Do you have any idea how many people in the world are wearing your glasses right now?
Andrea Guerra: At least half a billion are wearing our glasses now.
Luxottica started here as a small tool shop in Agordo, a dot of a town in the Italian Alps, when frames were still made of mountain goat horns. This was the factory in 1961. This is what it looks like today.
Last year, Luxottica made 77 million pairs of sunglasses and optical frames. They don't make prescription lenses. We saw mountains and mountains of glasses in boxes headed to China, India, Brazil, and, above all, to the U.S.
Lesley Stahl: But they're very expensive. They can be very expensive.
$4,000 for a pair of glasses?60 MINUTES: SEGMENT EXTRAS
$4,000 for a pair of glasses?
Andrea Guerra: They can. This is one of the very few things that are 100 percent functional, 100 percent aesthetical, and they need to be on your face for 15 hours a day. Not easy, and there's a lot of work behind them.
Luxottica's product manager Isabella Sola explained that the company revolutionized how we see glasses.
Lesley Stahl, wearing sunglasses: You think I look cool?
Isabella Sola: Yes. I think so.
Lesley Stahl: I think I look cool too.
It wasn't that long ago that glasses were uncool. You only wore them if you absolutely had to.
Lesley Stahl: I can remember, not that many years ago, my mother telling me that men will never ask me out if I wear my glasses. I was to go blind if I wanted dates.
But Luxottica took this medical device and turned it into high fashion, by making deals to conceive and create high quality, stylish specs for nearly every brand and label you can think of.
Isabella Sola: We have Prada. We have Chanel. We have Dolce Gabbana. We have Versace. We have Burberry. We have Ralph Lauren. We have Tiffany. We have Bulgari...
They're not even called "glasses" anymore. They're "eyewear!"
Lesley Stahl: Do people really wear this?
Isabella Sola: Yes!
Once glasses became "face jewelry" Luxottica could charge a hefty markup.
Lesley Stahl: But you know something: I know that there are some less expensive glasses that look very similar to the very expensive. For example, this is your Vogue line which is not that expensive.
Isabella Sola: Yes.
Lesley Stahl: And this is?
Isabella Sola: Coach.
Lesley Stahl: Coach, which is much more expensive. If two women walked down the street with these on--
Isabella Sola: Yes, they almost look the same.
Lesley Stahl: Almost the same.
Isabella Sola: But it's almost. It's not the same.
Not the same because of details on the frames like the little Chanel Cs, Polo ponies, or Tiffany blue. Luxottica wouldn't tell us their markup, but glasses like these can sell for up to 20 times what they cost to make. And all the glasses are designed by Luxottica.
Lesley Stahl: So you design thousands of pairs of glasses?
Isabella Sola: We do, yes.
Lesley Stahl: Where does Tiffany come into it?
Isabella Sola: Tiffany comes in at every stage, basically.
The fashion houses send in sketches of their new collections as inspiration. And down on the factory floor, you can see the work that goes into differentiating the brands: plain plastic temples go through a painting machine and come out "Versace!" Stones are inserted one-by-one into the Dolce Gabbana; and leather is carefully threaded for that Chanel-bag look.
Lesley Stahl: If people begin to know that Chanel glasses were designed by Luxottica, would it change the way they think about Chanel glasses?
Andrea Guerra: You know, that would be totally wrong, that would be crazy.
Lesley Stahl: But why isn't the Luxottica name a brand name? I mean, are you in any way hiding it?
Andrea Guerra: Hiding it?
Lesley Stahl: Yeah.
Andrea Guerra: Not at all. We are listed.
Listed on the New York Stock Exchange where Luxottica shares are soaring. The company raked in $10 billion last year. But their best seller wasn't a fancy fashion house label. It was a brand they outright own: Ray-Ban.
Originally made by Bausch + Lomb for the U.S. Army, since JFK, nearly every president has worn them, not to mention Tom Cruise in "Risky Business" and "Top Gun." But the brand was poorly managed, cheapened, and eventually put up for sale. The Italians bought it in 1999, and had a strategy to turn things around:
Andrea Guerra: We stopped selling sunglasses from Ray-Ban for more or less a year.
Lesley Stahl: When you bought it, you could buy them for, I don't even know how little money--
Andrea Guerra: Twenty-nine dollars.
Lesley Stahl: Twenty-nine dollars at the drug store, at a gas station, and you took them off the market.
Andrea Guerra: We refurbished everything.
And made them upscale: today those $29 pairs can cost 150 and more, and Ray-Ban is the top-selling sunglass brand in the world.
Lesley Stahl: When Americans go to buy these glasses, I'll bet 99 percent think they're buying an American brand.
Andrea Guerra: It is an American brand, what's wrong with it? I mean, it's an American brand owned by Italians. I think the world is... The world is this.
Lesley Stahl: It is the world, and we didn't realize it, that's the thing. Before I started working on this story, I'd never heard the name Luxottica.
Andrea Guerra: Yeah.
Luxottica CEO reveals secret to founder's success60 MINUTES: SEGMENT EXTRAS
Luxottica CEO reveals secret to founder's success
Which is all the more surprising since Luxottica not only bought Ray-Ban, they also bought LensCrafters, the largest eyewear retail chain in North America. So now they make 'em and they sell 'em. It's great for business, but is it great for the consumer? Mark Weikel was then president of LensCrafters.
Lesley Stahl: How many non-Luxottica brands do you sell here?
Mark Weikel: We probably have a few brands that aren't Luxottica.
Lesley Stahl: Mostly Luxottica?
Mark Weikel: I would guess, mostly Luxottica. Yuh.
Lesley Stahl: So since Luxottica owns you, does the consumer get a break on glasses made by them in LensCrafters?
Mark Weikel: What the customer gets at LensCrafters is a variety of services and products, including this broad assortment of frames--
Lesley Stahl: Mark, you're not answering my question. I'm asking if you charge less for frames made by Luxottica since you're the same company.
Mark Weikel: I think every competitor, every retail optical brand, determines what their pricing is on whatever their brands are.
That's a no. Consumers do not get a break. At LensCrafters, the average cost for a pair of frames and lenses is about $300. You may think -- well, there's choice in the mall for other glasses. But Luxottica doesn't only own the top eyewear chain in the country, it owns another large chain: Pearle Vision, and Oliver Peoples, and several boutique chains. And it runs Target Optical and Sears Optical. And we're not done, Luxottica also owns Sunglass Hut - the largest sunglass chain in the world.
Lesley Stahl: So is there a free market in eyewear?
Brett Arends: No, I don't think there really is. I think one company has excessive dominance in the market.
Wall Street Journal columnist Brett Arends says the appearance of variety is an optical illusion.
Brett Arends: The reality is, it's like you know, it's like pro-wrestling competition. And it's actually fake competition.
Consider what happened to Oakley, the world-famous maker of advanced sports eyewear.
Brett Arends: Oakley was a big competitor. And they had a fight with Luxottica. And Luxottica basically said, "We're dropping you from our stores." And Oakley--
Lesley Stahl: They refused to sell their glasses in their stores.
Brett Arends: Yeah, there was a dispute about pricing, and they dropped Oakley from the stores, and Oakley's stock price collapsed. How is Oakley going to reach the consumer if they can't get their sunglasses in Sunglass Hut?
Andrea Guerra: There were some issues between the two companies in the beginning of the 2000s. But both of them understood that it was better to go along.
Lesley Stahl: Better to let you buy them?
Andrea Guerra: I wouldn't say this. We merged with Oakley in 2007.
Lesley Stahl: You bought Oakley. They tried to compete and they lost and then you bought them.
Andrea Guerra: I understand your theory, but they understood that life was better together.
So now Luxottica owns the two top premium sunglass brands in the world, Ray-Ban and Oakley. But Luxottica points out there are other players -
Lesley Stahl: Who's your biggest competitor in the United States?
Andrea Guerra: You could say Walmart.
Also Costco and emerging on-line companies like Warby Parker. But other competitors told us Luxottica has them in a chokehold: if you make glasses, you want to be in their stores; and if you have stores, you want to sell Ray-Bans! So Luxottica can set the prices as high as it wants.
Brett Arends: Luxottica's dominance, it's what's called a price maker which means that essentially it can set prices and other people will follow in its wake.
Which he says is why glasses in general cost so much, even at your local optician's.
Brett Arends: The whole point of a luxury brand is to persuade people to pay $200 for a product that cost $30 to make.
Lesley Stahl: Well let me show you something. Why is it any different than my shoe?
Brett Arends: Well, to some extent there's actually a lot of comparisons. The difference is that the entire shoe industry isn't made by one company. And the same company doesn't also own all the shoe stores.
You'd think well, surely insurance companies covering vision would complain. But guess what? Luxottica also owns the nation's second largest vision-care plan: EyeMed, covering eye exams and glasses.
Lesley Stahl: What don't you own?
Andrea Guerra: A lot of things.
Lesley Stahl: Not really...
Andrea Guerra: [laughs]
Lesley Stahl: You seem to, really. Why not combine everything under one name?
Andrea Guerra: I think people love diversities, people love to have different brands, people love to have different experiences.
Lesley Stahl: It's an illusion of choice if you're all owned by the same company.
Andrea Guerra: I think this is totally wrong. The question is, what kind of choice consumer has. It's not a question of how many you own.
Lesley Stahl: How does the consumer benefit from all this? Your prices are still high.
Andrea Guerra: If you go to a shoe company, would you say that their prices are high?
Lesley Stahl: You're trying to tell me it's all worth all that money.
Andrea Guerra: Everything is worth what people are ready to pay.
And you know what? He's right. People are ready to pay. A lot.
Lesley Stahl: I bet they cost a fortune.
Christie: They're not too expensive.
Lesley Stahl: [laughs]
They cost almost $400. With prescription lenses, the price could jump to 600 or more.
This past March, Luxottica added to its roster what could be considered the final frontier in glasses: the company signed a deal with Google to design, produce, and distribute Google Glass, adding a sense of style to the web-connected eyewear due in stores as early as next year.
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ANDREW RUSHER
September 24, 2016 2:2AM
This is because of "insurance" companies in bed with "frame" and "lens" manufacturer's...you are forced to get "new" prescriptions or they won't sell you glasses..they say it's like "prescription drugs"...whats next will they take your glasses like they do "pills" if you don't have new prescriptions or take your old lenses out of the old frames and put them in new like if you take pills out of the bottle and store them in a different container? Are they going to start making people go to "feet doctors" and force them to get shoes for "proper posture"? Seriously..this is fascism/socialism in play...the United States hasn't had "Capitalism" in over 100 years because our governments been socialist/fascist while claiming to be capitalist when in reality they are passing laws and regulations that are fascist/socialist by definition getting government involved in business's giving them monopolies like the Feudal days when merchants bribed Kings/Queens for exclusive rights to sell...we have reverted back into the past but people think we are "progressing" just because of "technology"....such ignorance.
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MEGS0986
October 10, 2015 0:12AM
If you are ready to pay the same amount for a pair of shoes or clothing which will last you a year at the most cause fashion styles change and you want to wear something new everyday when it comes to clothing, then why complain about a pair of glasses that gives you sight. Moreover a good pair will last you years or more. At the most you invest $400 in a pair of glasses with lenses. If you treat them well you can use it for years. How can someone compare eyewear to an iPad? If you had power, without your glasses you wouldn't be able to see that iPad. The value of money has also changed : you can not buy the same products that you did 15 years ago for a dollar that you can today! Also the material used is superior to regular plastic; regular plastic will wrap if exposed to sunlight. What's amazing is that people don't mind spending on gadgets, watches, perfumes etc. but eyewear!
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KATESLATE
June 18, 2014 1:1PM
This type of article is created to get us all used to being screwed by the 2%. Why is ANYTHING more expensive? Because the 2% wants ever more money, ever more control. Can you boycott? No. If you need Rx glasses, you have to have Rx glasses.
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RAFLIN1
June 18, 2014 0:12AM
I you can wear contact lenses, do so. You will not only save a bundle, you will deprive the thieving Italian company of your hard earned money.
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PETEROUPE
June 18, 2014 0:12AM
I cheat. I get my glasses free from the VA.
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TRUETHATTUCSON
June 18, 2014 3:3AM
@peteroupe free? fool!
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GINGERGRANT
June 18, 2014 0:12PM
@peteroupe
You're welcome.
And thank you for your service.
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SOBOBX
June 16, 2014 0:12PM
Simple, because there's enough stupid people who will pay such prices.
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OC.STEFHB
June 16, 2014 0:12PM
If we're talking glasses in that we're talking the glass lenses, especially rx versions... it's because of oil prices. If we're talking frames then most of it is because of the brands popularity. Supply and Demand. Something starts to take/trend you're going to see that price go up.
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167IRISHBOY
June 16, 2014 0:12PM
just another example in the long parade of greed.
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GREENNNNNN-2009
June 16, 2014 10:10AM
This was a repeat show. I saw this on 60 Minutes some time ago and have known about this since then. That was last year.
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MISTY-MAYHEM
June 16, 2014 11:11AM
@greennnnnn-2009 The article does say it originally ran in 2012.
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ETEAMER
June 16, 2014 10:10AM
I don't get this. It's not the reality on the ground. Italian Serengeti all glass with photo gray $49 at Big 5. Prescription sunglasses from my optometrist $110 for all glass. You only pay those prices if you're a fool.
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‎02-12-2017 11:06 PM
@esmeraldagooch wrote:No but we just went to Costco and bought them there. Big savings with all the great trifocal, anti scratch and transition coating. Worth the membership if that is all you bought.
Me too! $70 and VERY happy!
‎02-13-2017 12:33 AM
Yes, I have. I bought two pairs of glasses at Zenni Optical. One pair was around $40.00 and the other pair maybe $55.00. Both pairs are tinted. I am totally satisfied. I was concerned of course, but I could not afford store prices. The glasses are made in China if I remember correctly. I would have preferred to buy "American" but the price difference was too great. My glasses are bifocal. I had a recent prescription by a local doctor and just submitted the information.
‎02-13-2017 12:45 AM
No I never bought glasses online and never will. They need to be fitted properly and I get invisible bifocals and anti glare. My DH has to have his glasses contoured so they're not thick, plus he has invisible bifocals too. We would never take a chance and get them online.
PS I'm glad you posted this, thank you! Because it just dawned on me they never called that my glasses were ready and I went for them all but 2 weeks ago. They were supposed to be in Friday so I will be calling tomorrow morning! lol.
‎02-13-2017 01:10 AM
@chrystaltree: You probably are referring to PD measurements. Ask your Optician for them (they don't automatically give them but always do if you ask). If you need to measure do it with a ruler (easy easy).
‎02-13-2017 05:26 AM
Maybe its just me, but I can't imagine picking glasses out from a photo on line! I need to try them on! I always try on about every pair in the store before making my decision! They are such an expensive purchase so I need to be completely certain they fit right/feel good!
‎02-13-2017 05:56 AM
Absolutely, unequivocally, NO!!!!
I want someone to fit my frames to my face and to properly place my bifocals. You can't do that on-line yet.
‎02-13-2017 05:59 AM
@cherry wrote:I know it's expensive to buy glasses. I get titanium frames.
I am particular about fit, and I would be afraid, not to be able to try my frames on
Love my titanium designer frames!!
‎02-13-2017 06:03 AM - edited ‎02-13-2017 06:05 AM
I have a friend that orders his all the time from Zenni and is always pleased.
I need to try them on and I don't know if Zenni would have the same frames available that the optician has.
What happens if you need them adjusted for fit if you do order from an on-line source?
‎02-13-2017 10:20 AM
@patbz wrote:@chrystaltree: You probably are referring to PD measurements. Ask your Optician for them (they don't automatically give them but always do if you ask). If you need to measure do it with a ruler (easy easy).
So that's what it is. Thanks so much. I'll ask my optician.
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