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[jubilant]

I do agree with covering up a person if at all possible when you can.  Not because of religious beliefs. My feelings have nothing to do with religion.  I want everything done to save my life no matter how much is showing!  My problem has been those times....years ago....when you shared a room with someone.

I remember a nurse came in to give me and emema.  No big deal.  What bothered me is she didn't pull my curtain to do it and the lady in the other bed would have been  a "witness" to the whole thing had I not asked for the curtain between us to be drawn.  Also, this other woman had lots of company every day and after the enema, I, of course, was running to the bathroom multiple times.  I had to run past her visitors into the bathroom trying to hold my thin gown together in the back.  These things do happen in  hospitals....  If they haven't happened to you consider yourself lucky.  I was very young then.....today I wouldn't stand for it. Like I say.....some nurses are just more caring and conscientious than others.  The private rooms are nice.  It has improved those situations a great deal. 

[Constance2]

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@hckynutjohn wrote:

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I disagree with many things you have said here.... So now hospital personal are supposed to concern themselves with what religion practices and beliefs a patient has before doing anything for or with them?

Notice you leave out the fact that the majority of nurses are of the female gender, yet not a word about a male and respect for his privacy. There are many males that I have met in many situations that are not comfortable with even showering or disrobing with all males, yet you said nothing about a male, unless I missed finding it.

Most people I know also like to protect their modesty, but there are times in ones life where modesty should be way down their list of priorities. Don't know if you have ever seen what they do in a trauma room, but I can assure you when time is of the essence, the staff does not concern themselves about invading the patients privacy/modesty. They are more concerned about saving their lives.

Same can be said when one is transported to an ER when minutes can mean the difference between a patient living or dying. And modesy should be an issue for a dying patient?

Now I have had close to 20 procedures that involve exposing my rear end to whomever is in the room. Unless someone has found a new method of doing a Colonoscopy/Double Balloon Enteroscopy, ain't no way, regardless of religious beliefs or ones modesty, to get a scope where it belongs without exposing this part of ones anatomy.

Could list all kinds of surgeries/childbirth and so on to further my belief in when modesty is so far down the list of priorities is should be a non-issue.

You say you were hospitalized in the late 1970's and state what you experienced. What makes you think that it is any different now than it was then when it comes to modesty and the staff not doing as much now as back then?

Medical science has changed and people that would have died in the 1970's can now be saved, partially because of the reality of how important each minute that ticks by might be in saving their life. I speak from experience when it comes to living or possibly dying where time was the most important thing when it came to my destiny.

Modesty/religious belief/gender of myself and/or those tending to me? Believe me they were not anywhere visible on my radar during those precious minutes. When my wife quit breathing on me about a month back and a male ParaMedic came into her bedroom to attach an EKG machine do you think she or I was concerned about her being partially disrobed to do this? No! My concern was him saving her life. Ended up with 5 people there between EMT's and the Paramedics. How many do you think were female? And what difference would that have made to either my wife or myself?

hckynut(john)

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As a former EMTA, I KNOW about emergency care procedures, and that saving a life is the most important thing.  Modesty can be forgotten at times like that, but maintaining a person's dignity in every situation is important.  Had you actually read my posts, you might have realized that I said "in the operating room" which is a controlled situation.    Nowhere did I state anything about in the ER if a life is in danger.

I did not specifically mention males modesty, but it should go for everyone who is vulnerable and unconscious.  

After reading your post, I'm reminded of the quote to which I will adhere:  I refuse to continue in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.  Good day, sir.

[brii]

I don't understand who is being made to disrobe in front of strangers?  Unless you need help from the nurse or the aide, they leave the gown with the patient to change into. 

When they wheel you into surgery, patients are wearing a hospital gown and blankets.  After you go to sleep and they prep you for surgery, nobody would know what they're doing to you.  I would hope they would be respectful of patients. 

[Constance2]

I believe iIt depends on the type of surgery you're having just how much of your body will be showing once you get in the operating room.  When I had my first major surgery, it was a surprise to see so many people who were not medical personnel that were in the room waiting around to move gurneys.  And, there were several operating tables.  I had thought that only one per room was the norm.