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[ChynnaBlue]

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@Constance2 wrote:

I know...many changes have taken place in hospital care since I had my children forty plus years ago.  Now, privacy is almost nonexistent in the operating rooms, so when you check in, your modesty is forced to check out.  Also, after surgery, you are lined up on gurneys like pieces of meat while they wait for you to come out of anesthesia.  And we're paying so much for all this, why????

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I don't care about modesty when I'm surgery, I care about the doctors doing good work. I figure the doctors have seen everything and don't much care about that because they're busy with the surgery, much like going to the gynecologist. It's not like they perform surgery in the middle of my office where people I know are watching. I also don't mind being lined up while coming out of anesthesia - because I'm anesthetized. I don't need a private room with flowers, I need to be monitored. People are easier to monitor when they aren't all in separate rooms where staff can't see them. We're safer where they can see us.

I want a hospital to be efficient and practical while they're making me well or saving my life. 

[Constance2]

Good for you that you don't care about modesty.  That's your prerogative.  Would you care about if it your next door neighbor, who was not actually medical personnel, was going to be there seeing you in the buff?   They were there just to move the gurneys to their next location.  I think you just might change your mind.

[jubilant]

I have been in and out of emergency rooms dozens and dozens of times in the last few years.  Actually, it's the emergency rooms that scare me the most.  Hopefully, a patient has an advocate, family member, or friend with them at all times in an emergency situation.

I like the private room deal and being able to order food.

Another thing I have learned is not all nurses are created equal.  Some are sooooo much better than others.  Some even go that extra mile.  Some should not be nurses.  Most have been good.  Lately, we have had several experiences with people who, imo, are in the wrong profession. One we even had to report to the hospital.  Something we have only had to do twice.  The one girl we found out....had many bad reports against  her and finally got fired....so...imo....if you run into someone that negligent you should report it.  It does happen sometimes.  On the whole...our experiences have been pretty good.   

I do expect to lose some of my dignity at a hospital....but I love it when a nurse or technician offers to tie my gown in the back when walking!!  Some don't care but I prefer the ones who do....I don't want to traumatize my visitors for life!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

[151949]

I have been a nurse since 1966 and to date I have never seen a recovery room where the beds were separated by anything except a curtain, which is rarely closed. The nurses there are responsible for a high level of care and observation of many patients and NEED to be able to watch them all at the same time. What if someone was extubated too soon and wasn't breathing and another was perhaps  vomiting  or choking or was confused from the anesthesia and trying to climb off the guerney? These are a few of many common post anesthesia occurances. Perhaps you should be aware of the facts before you decide to criticize.

[151949]

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@jubilant wrote:

I have been in and out of emergency rooms dozens and dozens of times in the last few years.  Actually, it's the emergency rooms that scare me the most.  Hopefully, a patient has an advocate, family member, or friend with them at all times in an emergency situation.

I like the private room deal and being able to order food.

Another thing I have learned is not all nurses are created equal.  Some are sooooo much better than others.  Some even go that extra mile.  Some should not be nurses.  Most have been good.  Lately, we have had several experiences with people who, imo, are in the wrong profession. One we even had to report to the hospital.  Something we have only had to do twice.  The one girl we found out....had many bad reports against  her and finally got fired....so...imo....if you run into someone that negligent you should report it.  It does happen sometimes.  On the whole...our experiences have been pretty good.   

I do expect to lose some of my dignity at a hospital....but I love it when a nurse or technician offers to tie my gown in the back when walking!!  Some don't care but I prefer the ones who do....I don't want to traumatize my visitors for life!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

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Any nurse who would allow a patient to walk outside the room in a hospital gown without a robe or another gown on backwards to serve as a robe should have their license taken away. no nurse would expose a patient in public like that.

[jubilant]

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@151949 wrote:

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@jubilant wrote:

I have been in and out of emergency rooms dozens and dozens of times in the last few years.  Actually, it's the emergency rooms that scare me the most.  Hopefully, a patient has an advocate, family member, or friend with them at all times in an emergency situation.

I like the private room deal and being able to order food.

Another thing I have learned is not all nurses are created equal.  Some are sooooo much better than others.  Some even go that extra mile.  Some should not be nurses.  Most have been good.  Lately, we have had several experiences with people who, imo, are in the wrong profession. One we even had to report to the hospital.  Something we have only had to do twice.  The one girl we found out....had many bad reports against  her and finally got fired....so...imo....if you run into someone that negligent you should report it.  It does happen sometimes.  On the whole...our experiences have been pretty good.   

I do expect to lose some of my dignity at a hospital....but I love it when a nurse or technician offers to tie my gown in the back when walking!!  Some don't care but I prefer the ones who do....I don't want to traumatize my visitors for life!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

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Any nurse who would allow a patient to walk outside the room in a hospital gown without a robe or another gown on backwards to serve as a robe should have their license taken away. no nurse would expose a patient in public like that.

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********I totally agree.  It shows a lack of caring and professionalism, imo.

[Constance2]

My goodness, I have never seen so many hard-headed and hard-hearted people as I have on this forum!  There is a definite lack of empathy and many are more willing to pick a fight and twist words than to try and understand what a person is saying.

My posts were aimed at the decorum in the operating room.  To simplify:  I believe that those working in the operating room, where an unconscious patient is most vulnerable, should help to keep them covered as much as possible?  

RE:  my experience in the recovery room.  It wasn't even a room.  We were in a hallway outside of the OR and no, there weren't any curtains separating us.  It was a surprise to me, because I'd never had major surgery before then, had only been hospitalized for having my children and once for a miscarriage, which was entirely different.

I want to clarify that I AM NOT criticizing nurses!!!   I was one of the first to jump to their defense when the women on the View acted like they were inferior and I also wrote the sponsors who withdrew their ads to thank them for supporting nurses.   So, to the one who said I was criticizing them, you were very wrong.

[Lipstickdiva]

All the short stay rooms in the hospitals here are private.  The rooms you are admitted to for possibly longer stays are not all private.  Only some of them are.

I had surgery earlier this year and I don't even remember or know where I was after my surgery was over until I was moved to my private room.  I remember going into the OR and the mask hitting my face and the next thing I remember was a nurse talking to me and telling me we were moving to a room.  As I was wheeled into the room, the DH, sister and cousin were there waiting for me.          

[hckynutjohn]

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@Constance2 wrote:

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Who needs modesty???  Christian women raised to dress modestly and whofeel it is wrong to have men and other hospital workers, gawk at her when she is most vulnerable and unconscious.  

There was a story in a local newspaper that stated that many Muslim women refuse to go to the hospital for the reason that they are forced to disrobe.  Sad thing is that both of the hospitals in my area, one Catholic and the other run by Seventh Day Adventists, have forgotten that there are many women who still feel it's wrong to disrobe in front of strangers.  When I was hospitalized in the late 70's, the nurses would cover you up with a blanket or sheet as much as possible to avoid embarrassment, and that's the way it should be today.  

I disagree with many things you have said here. So now hospital personal are supposed to concern themselves with what religion practices and beliefs a patient has before doing anything for or with them?

Notice you leave out the fact that the majority of nurses are of the female gender, yet not a word about a male and respect for his privacy. There are many males that I have met in many situations that are not comfortable with even showering or disrobing with all males, yet you said nothing about a male, unless I missed finding it.

Most people I know also like to protect their modesty, but there are times in ones life where modesty should be way down their list of priorities. Don't know if you have ever seen what they do in a trauma room, but I can assure you when time is of the essence, the staff does not concern themselves about invading the patients privacy/modesty. They are more concerned about saving their lives.

Same can be said when one is transported to an ER when minutes can mean the difference between a patient living or dying. And modesy should be an issue for a dying patient?

Now I have had close to 20 procedures that involve exposing my rear end to whomever is in the room. Unless someone has found a new method of doing a Colonoscopy/Double Balloon Enteroscopy, ain't no way, regardless of religious beliefs or ones modesty, to get a scope where it belongs without exposing this part of ones anatomy.

Could list all kinds of surgeries/childbirth and so on to further my belief in when modesty is so far down the list of priorities is should be a non-issue.

You say you were hospitalized in the late 1970's and state what you experienced. What makes you think that it is any different now than it was then when it comes to modesty and the staff not doing as much now as back then?

Medical science has changed and people that would have died in the 1970's can now be saved, partially because of the reality of how important each minute that ticks by might be in saving their life. I speak from experience when it comes to living or possibly dying where time was the most important thing when it came to my destiny.

Modesty/religious belief/gender of myself and/or those tending to me? Believe me they were not anywhere visible on my radar during those precious minutes. When my wife quit breathing on me about a month back and a male ParaMedic came into her bedroom to attach an EKG machine do you think she or I was concerned about her being partially disrobed to do this? No! My concern was him saving her life. Ended up with 5 people there between EMT's and the Paramedics. How many do you think were female? And what difference would that have made to either my wife or myself?

hckynut(john)

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[LilacTree]

At 77, I couldn't care less who's looking at my bare naked body.