Re: Homeless

Helen Erth · ‎11-25-2014

On 12/1/2014 kittymomNC said:
On 12/1/2014 Helen Erth said:
On 12/1/2014 kittymomNC said:
On 12/1/2014 Helen Erth said:
There is no solution. Jesus said over 2,000 years ago "the poor will always be with us" and that proves to be true today.

He also said "What you do for the least of these, you do for me."

Totally different subject.

All depends on how you look at it. "What you do for the least of these...." With enough help and hard work, there might still always be poor people, but they might not be homeless.

First you have to define "the least of these." Jesus was not speaking about the poor.

Qwackertoo · ‎03-11-2010

On 12/1/2014 kdgn said:
On 12/1/2014 Qwackertoo said:
I don't know. Like I said this was all new to the paperwork we fill out. We also, a couple of weeks later, fill out another piece of paper . . . which has to do with funding and whether one or both parents work on federal property and/or live on federal property and if you are a tribe member of Native Americans or qualify for inclusion based on certain criteria. And this isn't an alternative school.

That paper was for federal funding. Schools receive more monies from the federal government if a parent works on federal property and even more if the parents live on federal property. IE, live on a military installation. Real estate taxes are not paid on homes that are on federal property so the government has a formula to make up for that.

That form is standard around the nation.

I figured as much on that one. As it has to be filled out each and every year as of a certain date for each child registered in the household in the school system/district. So much so, back in elementary school, the teachers to get all the kids to return them in a timely fashion . . . would have contests and reward the winning classroom per grade with a treat or some sort . . . ice cream, pizza party and other incentives.

The new questionnaire . . . I'm not sure . . . it is NEW . . . and the other poster said it had to do with funding. I don't know. I do know the other one is as we do have military installation nearby. I just know . . . filling it out . . . I was very sad and felt for those kids that had to answer some of those questions in the affirmative. It was more of a questionnaire styled attachment to all the other forms, emergency contact, the lunch form, out of town field trip medical authorization etc. etc.

kittymomNC · ‎08-09-2012

On 12/1/2014 Helen Erth said:
On 12/1/2014 kittymomNC said:
On 12/1/2014 Helen Erth said:
On 12/1/2014 kittymomNC said:
On 12/1/2014 Helen Erth said:
There is no solution. Jesus said over 2,000 years ago "the poor will always be with us" and that proves to be true today.

He also said "What you do for the least of these, you do for me."

Totally different subject.

All depends on how you look at it. "What you do for the least of these...." With enough help and hard work, there might still always be poor people, but they might not be homeless.

First you have to define "the least of these." Jesus was not speaking about the poor.

Some interpret it as referring only to his immediate disciples. Others interpret it in different ways:

"While Je*sus wants us to be compassionate and caring to all people, this passage is primarily about how we treat those the world seems to think are the least, but whom J^esus values as his disciples. The least, the last, and the left out become the primary ones who come to Jes*us and find life, love, and lasting hope. Je^sus' promise is that as we care for those in his community, no matter their circumstance, we are caring for him. We can actually experience Immanuel, Go^d with us, when we care for disciples of Je^sus!"

(I'm trying to allow this thread to remain, so I'm not going any further on this particular subject.)

kittymomNC · ‎08-09-2012

On 12/1/2014 straitgirl said:
They should give the homeless the same perks they give the illegals.

What perks would that be, if you don't mind my asking? I'd like to know what they get.

151949 · ‎03-09-2010

On 12/1/2014 kittymomNC said:
On 12/1/2014 straitgirl said:
They should give the homeless the same perks they give the illegals.

What perks would that be, if you don't mind my asking? I'd like to know what they get.

me too

hckynut · ‎03-10-2010

On 12/1/2014 happy housewife said:
There is a man who is a66 teacher who is traveling around Florida living like and with the homeless. He was interviewed tonight on the news. He is just trying to raise the awareness of the plight of the homeless - especially the ever growing number of homeless children. He said How can we leave children to live in the woods homeless when we provide shelters for dogs and cats ? I so deeply agree with him. Not only are these poor kids without a home and a meal to eat but they are missing out on getting their education as well. How will they ever function as adults when they have missed so much school?

Some people make bad choices. Cats and dogs are the result of people making bad choices.

hckynut(john)

kittymomNC · ‎08-09-2012

On 12/2/2014 hckynut said:
On 12/1/2014 happy housewife said:
There is a man who is a teacher who is traveling around Florida living like and with the homeless. He was interviewed tonight on the news. He is just trying to raise the awareness of the plight of the homeless - especially the ever growing number of homeless children. He said How can we leave children to live in the woods homeless when we provide shelters for dogs and cats ? I so deeply agree with him. Not only are these poor kids without a home and a meal to eat but they are missing out on getting their education as well. How will they ever function as adults when they have missed so much school?

People make bad choices. Cats and dogs are the result of people making bad choices.

And homeless children are the result of grown people making bad choices or maybe just life circumstances, medical bills, etc. - the children are just as innocent as cats and dogs.

Peaches McPhee · ‎04-19-2010

There is no easy answer to any of this. We can, I hope, all agree, that "something must be done." What exactly is this magical "something".

The solution has to be easy to implement, inexpensive, user-friendly, stigma-free, safe, meet residential codes, be professionally staffed by people willing to work for peanuts, be right around the corner, meet the needs of the multi-cultural participants, etc. etc. etc.

My point is the answer is not easy and not cheap. Sorry if I sound cynical. I have worked in nonprofits for years and I love it, but I am also realistic about what is involved.

-- pro-aging --

Rochester, New York

151949 · ‎03-09-2010

I do not feel shelters are the answer , I feel we have to make available some sort of housing for parents with children who are homeless. Conditions in shelters are horrible due to being housed in with people who are mentally ill and some are violent. Children get raped. They have to be able to have at least a room and a bathroom where they can lock the door and feel safe. A kitchenette where they could prepare a meal would be wonderful too. Is that really too much to ask for?