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[HerRoyaLioness]

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@goldensrbest wrote:

The old testament did not approve of marring out of your race.

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It was not race that mattered, it was religion, the way of worship of God and His righteous requirements.  His people were warned not to marry into the pagan nations around them.

[Noel7]

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@newagain888888 wrote:

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@Noel7 wrote:

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@Vivian Florimond wrote:

I used two different services. They agreed on everything but 8-10 percent of my genetic heritage. One place said it was Iberian Peninsula, i.e., Spain and Portugal. The other place said that same 8-10 percent was British Isles, i.e., England, Scotland, Wales, or Ireland. Can I choose? Clearly there’s a bit of guesswork involved.

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@Vivian

There are some anthropologists who think the Welsh and some other previously thought Celts came over long ago from the Iberian region.

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Wikipedia has interesting information if you research the word ‘Celtiberians’.

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Thank you so much @newagain888888 !  I haven’t seen that word before, I will look into it.

[151949]

My friends are identical twins and their reports (not from ancestry) came back different - not identical.

[Noel7]

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@151949 wrote:

My friends are identical twins and their reports (not from ancestry) came back different - not identical.

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That's interesting!  Something to look into @151949

[Noel7]

@151949

Here's a response from the Stanford Tech Museum:

"This is pretty common with DNA ancestry tests and it isn’t just a 23andMe thing. Companies like Ancestry.com or MyHeritage will give these sorts of results too.

This does not mean these companies are doing shoddy work. They aren’t—they are doing outstanding, cutting edge science that brings DNA testing to many, many people.

It is just that the analysis is complicated enough that it is incredibly difficult to get an exact result. There is some wiggle room.

So don’t take percentages as exact numbers. As we talk about in a previous answer, they can vary by 10 or even 20% pretty easily and sometimes even a bit more. So two people might have the same amount of East European even if a DNA test says one has 20% and the other person has 40%.

But even when the percentages are small, this kind of thing is a bit more unsettling when you get different results from the exact same DNA. These differences mostly come from how the computer algorithm splits up the DNA into thousands of windows, analyzing one window at a time. And how blank spots (or “no calls”) in the data affect how the DNA is interpreted and/or split up into those pieces.

More here:

http://genetics.thetech.org/ask-a-geneticist/same-dna-different-ancestry-results

[151949]

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@Noel7 wrote:

@151949

Here's a response from the Stanford Tech Museum:

"This is pretty common with DNA ancestry tests and it isn’t just a 23andMe thing. Companies like Ancestry.com or MyHeritage will give these sorts of results too.

This does not mean these companies are doing shoddy work. They aren’t—they are doing outstanding, cutting edge science that brings DNA testing to many, many people.

It is just that the analysis is complicated enough that it is incredibly difficult to get an exact result. There is some wiggle room.

So don’t take percentages as exact numbers. As we talk about in a previous answer, they can vary by 10 or even 20% pretty easily and sometimes even a bit more. So two people might have the same amount of East European even if a DNA test says one has 20% and the other person has 40%.

But even when the percentages are small, this kind of thing is a bit more unsettling when you get different results from the exact same DNA. These differences mostly come from how the computer algorithm splits up the DNA into thousands of windows, analyzing one window at a time. And how blank spots (or “no calls”) in the data affect how the DNA is interpreted and/or split up into those pieces.

More here:

http://genetics.thetech.org/ask-a-geneticist/same-dna-different-ancestry-results

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Sounds like a lot of double talk in order to cover their butts. Anyway, my friends did get them to refund their money.

[Noel7]

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@151949 wrote:

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@Noel7 wrote:

@151949

Here's a response from the Stanford Tech Museum:

"This is pretty common with DNA ancestry tests and it isn’t just a 23andMe thing. Companies like Ancestry.com or MyHeritage will give these sorts of results too.

This does not mean these companies are doing shoddy work. They aren’t—they are doing outstanding, cutting edge science that brings DNA testing to many, many people.

It is just that the analysis is complicated enough that it is incredibly difficult to get an exact result. There is some wiggle room.

So don’t take percentages as exact numbers. As we talk about in a previous answer, they can vary by 10 or even 20% pretty easily and sometimes even a bit more. So two people might have the same amount of East European even if a DNA test says one has 20% and the other person has 40%.

But even when the percentages are small, this kind of thing is a bit more unsettling when you get different results from the exact same DNA. These differences mostly come from how the computer algorithm splits up the DNA into thousands of windows, analyzing one window at a time. And how blank spots (or “no calls”) in the data affect how the DNA is interpreted and/or split up into those pieces.

More here:

http://genetics.thetech.org/ask-a-geneticist/same-dna-different-ancestry-results

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Sounds like a lot of double talk in order to cover their butts. Anyway, my friends did get them to refund their money.

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Stanford would have no interest in covering someone else's butt @151949

BTW, you're welcome.

[cerb]

Hi - fun thread to read.  The other day, one of the morning TV shows did DNA testing on 3 identical triplets, using the 3 most common kits sold, and they reported that the results were almost identical.

I didn't have any big surprises, though like a couple of you, the Iberian Peninsula ancestry also showed up.  According to Ancestry.com, Spanish/Portuguese fisherman settled in Britain 4,000+ years ago and became part of the indigenous people.  What confused me though, is that Ancestry.com says that it's looking back an average of 300 years, so I'm not sure why something that far back would show up?  

I read another article that stated that the average person who currently resides in Great Britain is 37% British, 22% Irish, 20% Western European, 9% Scandinavian, 3% Iberian Peninsula, and 2% Italy and Greece.  (Approx. percentages)

My husband had the bigger surprise.  His family had sworn for decades that they were part native American.  Nope.  Not one trace of native American in their ancestry, but they are about 1% African, from the Benin/Togo region.  

My husband and I used the Ancestry.com kits, and for Christmas we just purchased each of our 2 kids the 23 and me kits.  It'll be interesting to see how similar all the results are.  Oh - and I should add, that one close relative showed up for me, and it was my niece, so it was very accurate in that regard!

[Noel7]

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@cerb wrote:

Hi - fun thread to read.  The other day, one of the morning TV shows did DNA testing on 3 identical triplets, using the 3 most common kits sold, and they reported that the results were almost identical.

I didn't have any big surprises, though like a couple of you, the Iberian Peninsula ancestry also showed up.  According to Ancestry.com, Spanish/Portuguese fisherman settled in Britain 4,000+ years ago and became part of the indigenous people.  What confused me though, is that Ancestry.com says that it's looking back an average of 300 years, so I'm not sure why something that far back would show up?  

I read another article that stated that the average person who currently resides in Great Britain is 37% British, 22% Irish, 20% Western European, 9% Scandinavian, 3% Iberian Peninsula, and 2% Italy and Greece.  (Approx. percentages)

My husband had the bigger surprise.  His family had sworn for decades that they were part native American.  Nope.  Not one trace of native American in their ancestry, but they are about 1% African, from the Benin/Togo region.  

My husband and I used the Ancestry.com kits, and for Christmas we just purchased each of our 2 kids the 23 and me kits.  It'll be interesting to see how similar all the results are.  Oh - and I should add, that one close relative showed up for me, and it was my niece, so it was very accurate in that regard!

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I love your post @cerb A lot of interesting information and points.

Re: how they get info that goes way back... they can trace Mitochondrial DNA aka mtDNA from the mother back centuries.  My report came back with information from 1640.

[Sooner]

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@tansy wrote:

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@Noel7 wrote:

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@sidsmom wrote:

Unless there’s a Court Order, no one is getting my DNA.

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It’s just a matter of time before hackers tap into that market. 

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I don’t understand what there is to worry about @sidsmom

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@sidsmom robs banks in her spare time, @Noel7.  😜

Slightly OT but I read this morning that as we age our fingerprints are no longer easily identifiable.  I may take up a life of crime.

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Let me put it this way:  At random select 5 phone books from cities in the us.  At random select 300 people from each city and then you have a list of possible relatives.  Scary?  It would be to me.  

You have to think there are a lot of unsavory folks out there remotely related to you.  Maybe some your family was fortunate enough to move away from 100 years ago.  I think for most people if you have relatives you don't know, you are probably lucky not to know them.