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[goldensrbest]

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@HerRoyaLioness wrote:

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@goldensrbest wrote:

The old testament did not approve of marring out of your race.

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It was not race that mattered, it was religion, the way of worship of God and His righteous requirements.  His people were warned not to marry into the pagan nations around them.

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Yes ,your correct  i did mean religion,i miss spoke.

[Moonchilde]

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@Sooner wrote:

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@tansy wrote:

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@Noel7 wrote:

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@sidsmom wrote:

Unless there’s a Court Order, no one is getting my DNA.

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It’s just a matter of time before hackers tap into that market. 

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I don’t understand what there is to worry about @sidsmom

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@sidsmom robs banks in her spare time, @Noel7.  😜

Slightly OT but I read this morning that as we age our fingerprints are no longer easily identifiable.  I may take up a life of crime.

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Let me put it this way:  At random select 5 phone books from cities in the us.  At random select 300 people from each city and then you have a list of possible relatives.  Scary?  It would be to me.  

You have to think there are a lot of unsavory folks out there remotely related to you.  Maybe some your family was fortunate enough to move away from 100 years ago.  I think for most people if you have relatives you don't know, you are probably lucky not to know them.  

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Completely untrue in my case. I first “met” a second cousin on Ancestry forums. We chatted and had fun exchanging info. That was as far as it ever went. I then “met” a second cousin from the other side of my family. It was because of her efforts that I met three first cousins I never knew I had, and learned a lot more about my family.

All of these wonderful ladies provided me with family photos they shared with me from their own photos - I had lost all family photos due to a fire in which I was made homeless. They insisted on meeting me and warmly welcomed me into the family. We still correspond, though I no longer live near enough to visit them.

All of these relatives are/were (one is now deceased) happily married with families, and honestly, better off financially than I am.

I have a half brother and half sister out there somewhere that I’m curious about but no one can trace them at all. The cousin who was working on it has passed away, and vital info is missing. I’m just happy I have been able to connect as much as I have.

I’m not interested, though, in the lists of 3rd-5th cousins the companies are always sending me. Not one of them has ever had a surname I recognize in my family tree, so they don’t interest me. I’m not into “we’re all cousins” ;-)

[Sooner]

This explains a lot and reading about the Spanish Armada is fascinating:

Date: June to September 1588.

Area of the Armada campaign: The English Channel, the North Sea and the seas around the North and West of Scotland, the Orkneys and the West of Ireland.

Combatants in the Armada campaign: The Armada (Spanish for “Fleet”), manned by Spaniards, Portuguese, Italians, Germans, Dutch, Flemings, Irish and English against the English Fleet assisted by the Dutch Fleet.

There were a lot of sailors involved and a lot of the fleet wrecked off shore.  So I think at least some of what you are seeing in results is explained here and in the wars and interactions of the countries above.  People moved, explored and fought all over Europe and other continents over the years.

[Noel7]

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@Sooner wrote:

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@tansy wrote:

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@Noel7 wrote:

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@sidsmom wrote:

Unless there’s a Court Order, no one is getting my DNA.

🙃

It’s just a matter of time before hackers tap into that market. 

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I don’t understand what there is to worry about @sidsmom

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@sidsmom robs banks in her spare time, @Noel7.  😜

Slightly OT but I read this morning that as we age our fingerprints are no longer easily identifiable.  I may take up a life of crime.

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Let me put it this way:  At random select 5 phone books from cities in the us.  At random select 300 people from each city and then you have a list of possible relatives.  Scary?  It would be to me.  

You have to think there are a lot of unsavory folks out there remotely related to you.  Maybe some your family was fortunate enough to move away from 100 years ago.  I think for most people if you have relatives you don't know, you are probably lucky not to know them.  

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@Sooner

I agree, they can't all be great people.  The 23 & Me test showed relatives from my mother's side scattered around the globe.  That might be fun to explore, I think they have some kind of privacy system.

[Noel7]

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@Sooner wrote:

This explains a lot and reading about the Spanish Armada is fascinating:

Date: June to September 1588.

Area of the Armada campaign: The English Channel, the North Sea and the seas around the North and West of Scotland, the Orkneys and the West of Ireland.

Combatants in the Armada campaign: The Armada (Spanish for “Fleet”), manned by Spaniards, Portuguese, Italians, Germans, Dutch, Flemings, Irish and English against the English Fleet assisted by the Dutch Fleet.

There were a lot of sailors involved and a lot of the fleet wrecked off shore.  So I think at least some of what you are seeing in results is explained here and in the wars and interactions of the countries above.  People moved, explored and fought all over Europe and other continents over the years.

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@Sooner

I've read that a lot of the Irish and other scattered Brits came from Spain, they trace Basque DNA.  I wonder if some of them were Conversos?

[Noel7]

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@newagain888888 wrote:

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@Noel7 wrote:

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@Vivian Florimond wrote:

I used two different services. They agreed on everything but 8-10 percent of my genetic heritage. One place said it was Iberian Peninsula, i.e., Spain and Portugal. The other place said that same 8-10 percent was British Isles, i.e., England, Scotland, Wales, or Ireland. Can I choose? Clearly there’s a bit of guesswork involved.

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@Vivian

There are some anthropologists who think the Welsh and some other previously thought Celts came over long ago from the Iberian region.

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Wikipedia has interesting information if you research the word ‘Celtiberians’.

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@newagain888888

THANKS! 

"Celtic presence in Iberia likely dates to as early as the 6th century BC..."

This could explain a lot of the confusion.  Here's the link if anyone else wants to know more:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtiberians

[Moonchilde]

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@Noel7 wrote:

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@Sooner wrote:

This explains a lot and reading about the Spanish Armada is fascinating:

Date: June to September 1588.

Area of the Armada campaign: The English Channel, the North Sea and the seas around the North and West of Scotland, the Orkneys and the West of Ireland.

Combatants in the Armada campaign: The Armada (Spanish for “Fleet”), manned by Spaniards, Portuguese, Italians, Germans, Dutch, Flemings, Irish and English against the English Fleet assisted by the Dutch Fleet.

There were a lot of sailors involved and a lot of the fleet wrecked off shore.  So I think at least some of what you are seeing in results is explained here and in the wars and interactions of the countries above.  People moved, explored and fought all over Europe and other continents over the years.

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@Sooner

I've read that a lot of the Irish and other scattered Brits came from Spain, they trace Basque DNA.  I wonder if some of them were Conversos?

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@Noel7, this may have been covered in a previous post here, I haven’t read every one.  

The Galicia area of Spain has long been known to be Celtic in distant pre-Roman origins. They have their own language, music and customs apart from the rest of Spain. 

[Sooner]

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@Noel7 wrote:

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@Sooner wrote:

This explains a lot and reading about the Spanish Armada is fascinating:

Date: June to September 1588.

Area of the Armada campaign: The English Channel, the North Sea and the seas around the North and West of Scotland, the Orkneys and the West of Ireland.

Combatants in the Armada campaign: The Armada (Spanish for “Fleet”), manned by Spaniards, Portuguese, Italians, Germans, Dutch, Flemings, Irish and English against the English Fleet assisted by the Dutch Fleet.

There were a lot of sailors involved and a lot of the fleet wrecked off shore.  So I think at least some of what you are seeing in results is explained here and in the wars and interactions of the countries above.  People moved, explored and fought all over Europe and other continents over the years.

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@Sooner

I've read that a lot of the Irish and other scattered Brits came from Spain, they trace Basque DNA.  I wonder if some of them were Conversos?

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@Noel7 Probably.  I'll bet they were a little bit of a lot of things.  We tend to forget how widely people did travel then.  For example Paul's travels, Alexander the Great and others who led great forces.  And the countries and continents surrounding the Mediterranean made travel even easier.  

I believe people were far more like us than we would ever expect in their outlook on the world and how much they knew about distant lands.  And there was so much back and forth over who ruled what and where boarders were drawn; Britain and France come to mind!  LOL!!

[Noel7]

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@Moonchilde wrote:

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@Noel7 wrote:

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@Sooner wrote:

This explains a lot and reading about the Spanish Armada is fascinating:

Date: June to September 1588.

Area of the Armada campaign: The English Channel, the North Sea and the seas around the North and West of Scotland, the Orkneys and the West of Ireland.

Combatants in the Armada campaign: The Armada (Spanish for “Fleet”), manned by Spaniards, Portuguese, Italians, Germans, Dutch, Flemings, Irish and English against the English Fleet assisted by the Dutch Fleet.

There were a lot of sailors involved and a lot of the fleet wrecked off shore.  So I think at least some of what you are seeing in results is explained here and in the wars and interactions of the countries above.  People moved, explored and fought all over Europe and other continents over the years.

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@Sooner

I've read that a lot of the Irish and other scattered Brits came from Spain, they trace Basque DNA.  I wonder if some of them were Conversos?

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@Noel7, this may have been covered in a previous post here, I haven’t read every one.  

The Galicia area of Spain has long been known to be Celtic in distant pre-Roman origins. They have their own language, music and customs apart from the rest of Spain. 

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@Moonchilde

That could explain some of the confusion re: who came from Spain to Ireland and Wales, or make it more confusing.

My ancestry in both countries goes way back, I'd hoped they would also find some Viking DNA, a lot of them stayed and made settlements in what is now England.

[Noel7]

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@Sooner wrote:

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@Noel7 wrote:

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@Sooner wrote:

This explains a lot and reading about the Spanish Armada is fascinating:

Date: June to September 1588.

Area of the Armada campaign: The English Channel, the North Sea and the seas around the North and West of Scotland, the Orkneys and the West of Ireland.

Combatants in the Armada campaign: The Armada (Spanish for “Fleet”), manned by Spaniards, Portuguese, Italians, Germans, Dutch, Flemings, Irish and English against the English Fleet assisted by the Dutch Fleet.

There were a lot of sailors involved and a lot of the fleet wrecked off shore.  So I think at least some of what you are seeing in results is explained here and in the wars and interactions of the countries above.  People moved, explored and fought all over Europe and other continents over the years.

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@Sooner

I've read that a lot of the Irish and other scattered Brits came from Spain, they trace Basque DNA.  I wonder if some of them were Conversos?

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@Noel7 Probably.  I'll bet they were a little bit of a lot of things.  We tend to forget how widely people did travel then.  For example Paul's travels, Alexander the Great and others who led great forces.  And the countries and continents surrounding the Mediterranean made travel even easier.  

I believe people were far more like us than we would ever expect in their outlook on the world and how much they knew about distant lands.  And there was so much back and forth over who ruled what and where boarders were drawn; Britain and France come to mind!  LOL!!

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ITA @Sooner !

Part of what was Wales at the time of St. Patrick is now Scotland.  It confuses tracing what was going on and with who. 

Alas and alack, my heritage is pretty boring and seemingly all European.  The only exciting thing was finding out I have a splash of Sardinian.  The first thing I did after discovering that was buy my daughter two Sardinian cookbooks to give as a Christmas present. She was thrilled to find something interesting that she inherited, she will love the books.

Your comment about the traveling Europeans reminded me of that.  At least one of my ancestors got out of the UK area, or met a visitor.