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07-27-2019 12:02 AM
@stevieb wrote:
@sidsmom wrote:
@stevieb wrote:I also have a hard time with the assumption that holidays can be decided by 'poll'... If that's the case then I'd prefer Christmas to fall in February when there's a greater chance of snow... Maybe I'll commission a poll...
The poll was just a funny bit.
The ball is already picking up speed with this on a national level.
Change.org has over 80,000 signatures, at this time,
to petition to change to last Saturday of the month.
I was just reporting what I read in the paper.
@sidsmom I have no beef with you or what you reported. Also don't care when Halloween is celebrated, but the actual date of Halloween is what it is... Personally, I think this whole thing sort of goofy but it doesn't impact me one way or the other... I don't Trick or Treat anymore...
Exactly. They can have trick or treating any time they want. That isn’t important. But the actual date of the holiday can’t be changed. It is what it is.
Around here there here aren’t many trick or treaters and there are lots of parties and “trunk or treat” safe celebrations, most of which are not held on October 31st. There is no need for government changes to the calendar. Never was and never will be. Just party when you want.
Like July 4th. No one is trying to change the date of that holiday but parties and fireworks often take place the weekend before the 4th around here.
07-27-2019 12:25 AM
@Carmie wrote:Halloween has become secular holiday, but actually it is a religious day. Christians celebrate all saints Day and all Souls Day. Halloween means Holy Eve and is all
Saints Day. A day to honor Martyred Christian Saints.
It's a day like Christmas...it took on a whole new meaning for people to party and have fun, when originally it was a religious occasion.
It doesn't matter to me if they change trick or treating. Where I live it is very seldom done on Oct. 31 Anyway. It is usually on a Thursday night.
Halloween is not traditionally a Christian holiday.
It is Samhain. The pagan holiday originating from an ancient Celtic festival. The time when the physical barriers between the spiritual and physical worlds are the thinnest.
It is the time to celebrate the harvest before the dark days of winter descend.
Christians appropriated the holiday and made the day following All Saints Day.
If Halloween is changed for convenience sake, than so too should Christmas, which everyone knows is not even close to the actual birthday of Jesus.
07-27-2019 12:50 AM
This would seem to be a little problematic to implement across the board. I once called our city hall to ask when beggars night was and was told the formula the city used to decide what day it would fall on. The policy was that it would be held on whatever night was closest to Halloween that wasn’t a Friday or Saturday. Their theory was Friday night was high school football night and since we are a big college town, Saturday is college football. For the safety of the children, the police department didn’t want them out on the streets when there was that much other activity going on. So what may work for one town may not work for another.
07-27-2019 02:42 AM
It isn't even a hational holiday (any more than prime day, black friday, etc.)
07-27-2019 03:09 AM
I am tired of people who want to change things because it is convenient for them. Some people want to rewrite history and traditions because it doesn't suit them. I say leave it as it is. Halloween is October 31st.
07-27-2019 03:30 AM
Halloween is October 31st period.
07-27-2019 04:30 AM
If the nannygoats succeed in changing the date it won't end there, look for more "helpful" changes to come...fixing things that don't need to be fixed is the nannygoats mission.
07-27-2019 04:36 AM
@Carmie wrote:Halloween has become secular holiday, but actually it is a religious day. Christians celebrate all saints Day and all Souls Day. Halloween means Holy Eve and is all
Saints Day. A day to honor Martyred Christian Saints.
It's a day like Christmas...it took on a whole new meaning for people to party and have fun, when originally it was a religious occasion.
It doesn't matter to me if they change trick or treating. Where I live it is very seldom done on Oct. 31 Anyway. It is usually on a Thursday night.
@Carmie Yes this is more accurate-the triduum of Hallow'Eve, All Saints Day, and All Souls Day.
All Saints Day was actually moved to November 1st in honor of the dedication of the basillica dedicated to all saints.
While there is a history of Samhain in Irish lore associated with October 31st, (which actually the calendar as we know it today did not exist) it is a misconception that the Church used October 31 to overshadow Samhain, which was a festival of the end of harvest.
Hallow's Eve (shortened to Halloween) does not have it's roots in Samhain.
07-27-2019 04:36 AM
Individual parties would be safest for children. The problem became those treats that some handed out. If they had small parties the kids should be able to have safe treats. That's what they care about. They can party in costumes. You don't have to worry about the safety of the treats they get. Safe environment is a good goal.
07-27-2019 06:12 AM
Relax everyone, they will never succeed in changing the church calendar. They can trick or treat any day they want. Halloween will always be Oct 31
This kind of thing is always devised by people who have no culture of their own ,so they think nothing of trying to destroy other peoples.
They won't succeed..
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