HOmeless population of San Diego - Page 5

Noel7 · ‎03-09-2010

@stuyvesant wrote:
It's such a shame that cities have to piggyback dealing with homelessness with dealing with veteran homelessness. I understand it - that's what gets the funding. But it's not anywhere close to who are the real homeless.

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They don't @stuyvesant

Luckily, the buck doesn't stop with veterans, which I mentioned earlier.

There are also charity funded areas in SF and Oakland set up for the homeless. Some live in refurbished downtown hotels where most services are located, others are being given areas to form communities. Those areas have many portapotties and garbage cans. The residents are self monitored and must clean up their garbage daily, which the city sends trucks to pick up. A couple now have shower facilities.

They are checked daily by a social worker to see if anyone needs help getting to medical aid or one of the many nearby kitchens providing food.

Several wealthy philanthropists are planning small housing units for the homeless. As of now, they are provided with tents, blankets and other basics.

dex · ‎03-09-2010

@PhilaLady1 there are too many to fit under the table now.Our area has many services for the homeless.I once saw a tv reporter interview some and asked them what could be done.The homeless man said that things were good and that they want for nothing.This answer surprised me in many ways.Was it too easy to just let someone else take care of you,was it a job well done by the community or was it just a preffered way of life for some?

Nancy Drew · ‎03-11-2010

@Noel7 wrote:
SF takes step toward housing all homeless veterans
May 2017

San Francisco Mayor Ed Lee stood in the lobby of a newly opened, supportive-housing complex Wednesday, and surrounded by dozens of military veterans just rescued from the street to live there, pledged to end chronic homelessness among their comrades by the end of the year.

The rehabilitated Winton Hotel at 445 O’Farrell St. in the Tenderloin gives roofs to 42 veterans. Combined with 30 rooms for veterans at the recently opened Crown Hotel on Valencia Street in the Mission District, that means 72 former service members have moved off the street into supportive housing over the past few months.

Lee said his staff hopes to identify 128 similar units to open by the end of 2017; they’ll be the final ones needed, he said.

Lee also is aiming to halve the city’s overall chronic homeless population of 1,700 by 2022 with the help of a $100 million donation pledge by the Tipping Point Community charity.

The rooms at the Winton and the Crown, along with their non-veteran rooms and 100 more at the newly opened National Hotel across from U.N. Plaza on Market Street, bring the city’s supportive-housing units to 7,066. It’s the first time the total has topped 7,000. “Supportive housing” means rooms or apartments with counseling and other services on site to help homeless people transition to stability.

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/SF-takes-step-toward-housing-all-homeless-veterans-11154165.ph...

Wrong is still wrong just because you benefited from it.

stuyvesant · ‎05-15-2010

@Noel7 wrote:
I think there are homeless in all west coast American cities. I don't know about other areas. They've always been with us, in our grandmothers' day they were called hobos.

There are more of them now, we have a larger population. Many on the street are veterans who need help with PTSD and other medical issues. Many are drug addicts.

Young people on the streets? They were there in the 60s and many were gay kids their parents had kicked out of their homes.

There are ways to help, the Bay Area has new innovative plans, we're always trying.

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I agree many homeless have addiction problems. I am also sure gay kids were kicked out of their homes in the '60s.

I do not agree that many of the homeless are veterans. It's a huge problem, but not among veterans.

It's possible that people emphasize the veteran homeless because they think people will be more sympathetic to funding for veteran homeless.

Noel7 · ‎03-09-2010

@Nancy Drew wrote:
@Noel7 wrote:
SF takes step toward housing all homeless veterans
May 2017

San Francisco Mayor Ed Lee stood in the lobby of a newly opened, supportive-housing complex Wednesday, and surrounded by dozens of military veterans just rescued from the street to live there, pledged to end chronic homelessness among their comrades by the end of the year.

The rehabilitated Winton Hotel at 445 O’Farrell St. in the Tenderloin gives roofs to 42 veterans. Combined with 30 rooms for veterans at the recently opened Crown Hotel on Valencia Street in the Mission District, that means 72 former service members have moved off the street into supportive housing over the past few months.

Lee said his staff hopes to identify 128 similar units to open by the end of 2017; they’ll be the final ones needed, he said.

Lee also is aiming to halve the city’s overall chronic homeless population of 1,700 by 2022 with the help of a $100 million donation pledge by the Tipping Point Community charity.

The rooms at the Winton and the Crown, along with their non-veteran rooms and 100 more at the newly opened National Hotel across from U.N. Plaza on Market Street, bring the city’s supportive-housing units to 7,066. It’s the first time the total has topped 7,000. “Supportive housing” means rooms or apartments with counseling and other services on site to help homeless people transition to stability.

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/SF-takes-step-toward-housing-all-homeless-veterans-11154165.ph...
I think is wonderful. I didn’t know this was going on.
I have thoughts so bear with me. There still will have to be rules for this to work. People on drugs or mentally ill can not or will not follow them. So then what happens , back out on the street, in a treatment facility? I am scared to death of homeless people whether that is irrational or not. To me if they are on the street it is because they are on drugs or mentally ill. Those people can be violent and act irrational. I am trying to learn.

You are right! @Nancy Drew

Some homeless just refuse help, also. We have special police for homeless problems. If you see someone acting out, 911 sends one cop or two if needed, specially trained and from that neighborhood. They even help them pack up their things. It hasn't always been that good, for sure.

Some you just can't reach. The communities set up have leaders that also lived on the streets that check on the camp residents, try to calm them if necessary, or call for help. It's not perfect, for sure.

MickD · ‎03-10-2010

@Nancy Drew I have worked at a day center for the homeless, a transitional shelter for women and children, and outreach day program and residential treatment for the mentally ill in Chicago. All of these programs had rules, criteria for acceptance, and constant support by mental health providers.

These were all great supports for those in need. However, many who are seriously mentally ill, drug addicted would never have met the criteria.....those were the poor souls on the street ....in and out of psych hospitals and jails.

...they can't get to a baseline for treatment or assistance.

Where have you gone, Joe DiMaggio? A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.... ~ S & G

Noel7 · ‎03-09-2010

@stuyvesant wrote:
@Noel7 wrote:
I think there are homeless in all west coast American cities. I don't know about other areas. They've always been with us, in our grandmothers' day they were called hobos.

There are more of them now, we have a larger population. Many on the street are veterans who need help with PTSD and other medical issues. Many are drug addicts.

Young people on the streets? They were there in the 60s and many were gay kids their parents had kicked out of their homes.

There are ways to help, the Bay Area has new innovative plans, we're always trying.

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I agree many homeless have addiction problems. I am also sure gay kids were kicked out of their homes in the '60s.

I do not agree that many of the homeless are veterans. It's a huge problem, but not among veterans.

It's possible that people emphasize the veteran homeless because they think people will be more sympathetic to funding for veteran homeless.

@stuyvesant

They do counts here every year in SF, as to homeless verterans. You might want to ask pitdakota, I assume she has the stats.

Those who get housing for vets here are all checked and have ID cards for the veterans' hospital. You may choose not to believe it, but it's not only on record, it's pretty common knowledge.

Here's one reason why: Going back to the Gulf War, our troops suffered more head wounds than in earlier days. If I remember correctly, the land mines caused many. At the same time, medical techniques and technology progressed and saved many who would have died in earlier times. The result is that many, many came home with head wounds and PTSD. Many, if not most of those, turned to drugs for self medication. There's a lot written up about that in online news and medical reports if you are interested.

stuyvesant · ‎05-15-2010

@Noel7 wrote:
@stuyvesant wrote:
@Noel7 wrote:
I think there are homeless in all west coast American cities. I don't know about other areas. They've always been with us, in our grandmothers' day they were called hobos.

There are more of them now, we have a larger population. Many on the street are veterans who need help with PTSD and other medical issues. Many are drug addicts.

Young people on the streets? They were there in the 60s and many were gay kids their parents had kicked out of their homes.

There are ways to help, the Bay Area has new innovative plans, we're always trying.

_______________________

I agree many homeless have addiction problems. I am also sure gay kids were kicked out of their homes in the '60s.

I do not agree that many of the homeless are veterans. It's a huge problem, but not among veterans.

It's possible that people emphasize the veteran homeless because they think people will be more sympathetic to funding for veteran homeless.

@stuyvesant

They do counts here every year in SF, as to homeless verterans. You might want to ask pitdakota, I assume she has the stats.

Those who get housing for vets here are all checked and have ID cards for the veterans' hospital. You may choose not to believe it, but it's not only on record, it's pretty common knowledge.

Here's one reason why: Going back to the Gulf War, our troops suffered more head wounds than in earlier days. If I remember correctly, the land mines caused many. At the same time, medical techniques and technology progressed and saved many who would have died in earlier times. The result is that many, many came home with head wounds and PTSD. Many, if not most of those, turned to drugs for self medication. There's a lot written up about that in online news and medical reports if you are interested.

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I think the women who care for these men are heroes. Mothers and wives who are absolute heroines.

Again, almost 23 million veterans, between 40,000-50,000 of those veterans are homeless.

There's a lot written up online about our homeless problem, if you are interested.

Noel7 · ‎03-09-2010

BACKGROUND AND CAUSE:

Outcome after traumatic brain injury in the U.S. military medical system.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8970548

Traumatic Brain Injury Overview

Military.com

http://www.military.com/benefits/veterans-health-care/traumatic-brain-

injury-overview.html

Does Traumatic Brain Injury Increase Risk for Substance Abuse? Abstract

Wars in Afghanistan and Iraq have resulted in thousands of military personnel suffering traumatic brain injury (TBI), including closed-head injuries.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2989860/

Noel7 · ‎03-09-2010

@stuyvesant PTSD and Substance Abuse in Veterans

https://www.ptsd.va.gov/public/problems/ptsd_substance_abuse_veterans.asp

Some people try to cope with their Posttraumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) symptoms by drinking heavily, using drugs, or smoking too much. People with PTSD have more problems with drugs and alcohol both before and after getting PTSD. Also, even if someone does not have a problem with alcohol before a traumatic event, getting PTSD increases the risk that he or she will develop a drinking or drug problem.

How common is co-occurring PTSD and SUD in Veterans?

Studies show that there is a strong relationship between PTSD and SUD, in both civilian and military populations, as well as for both men and women.

Specific to Veterans:

More than 2 of 10 Veterans with PTSD also have SUD.
War Veterans with PTSD and alcohol problems tend to be binge drinkers. Binges may be in response to bad memories of combat trauma.
Almost 1 out of every 3 Veterans seeking treatment for SUD also has PTSD.
The number of Veterans who smoke (nicotine) is almost double for those with PTSD (about 6 of 10) versus those without a PTSD diagnosis (3 of 10).
In the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, about 1 in 10 returning soldiers seen in VA have a problem with alcohol or other drugs.