Re: Fast Food Minimum wage $20 !

tansy · ‎01-02-2011

I am more concerned with CEO pay and bonuses that are way higher than employees of the company.

Back when I was in high school, I had part time minimum wage jobs. There were always older adults working with me.

Kachina624 · ‎03-10-2010

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@Desert Lily wrote:
Thank goodness they're getting a raise. Housing costs and rentals have skyrocketed in CA. I seriously doubt that anyone making $20/hour in CA could afford a decent apartment or afford a house. I read that homelessness has increased there.

@Kachina624 Sometimes college students, high school students, & retirees also take jobs in the fast food industry besides others who need the income. If the employment helps anyone pay the bills, then I think it's a good thing.

@Desert Lily. We'll hav3 to agree to disagree on this one. People should be paid for their skills and education. Fast food workers have little to offer and c should be paid accordingly.

This proposal is a sort of customer subsidized welfare....something for nothing.

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Mersha · ‎03-10-2010

@Sooner wrote:
@Kachina624 wrote:
This only encourages people, especially the young, to stay in dead-end jobs. They will never attempt to improve their marketability by acquire skills through vocational training or higher education.

California is doing youth a huge disfavor.
@Kachina624 We've encouraged young people telling them you can do what you love and live like a celebrity, but that just doesn't work out for most of us.

They wind up living a disappointed life, seeing themselves as victims of not having what they are entitled to have, and being angry and disillusioned. They don't learn to live within their means or to deal with disappointment and go on with life. It is sad for them.

Parents tell children they can live like a celebrity? Seriously?

I find here, quite often, that those without children, grandchildren or any interaction with young people are incredibly out of the loop with what is going on in the lives of young people.

They read/see only negative things and respond accordingly.

I am around my assorted aged grandchildren and their friends for the last 18 years. I see bright, articulate, confident and hard working individuals who have reached multiple goals.

The young people coming up will be such an asset to this country moving forward. I am very hopeful.

"Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are." BF

Sooner · ‎03-10-2010

@Carmie wrote:
Here in PA, a lot of fast food places pay $20 an hour to start. They need help that bad.

My granddaughter who started college in the fall made $23 an hour working at a place that sells gas and quick food. She wanted to save for college money.

Our minimum wage is $7.25 an hour. No one can live on $7.25 and few people want to work for that wage.

I wish restaurant workers were paid a fair wage and didn't have to beg for tips. They make $2.83 an hour, plus tips. The public should not be paying their wages.

@Carmie The thing people forget is that minimum wage is not the benchmark for a wage to live on. I don't think a teenager at a burger joint is working for a wage to live on. Economically, some jobs are like that or nobody can afford to buy anything.

Carmie · ‎10-25-2010

@Kachina624 wrote:
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@Desert Lily wrote:
Thank goodness they're getting a raise. Housing costs and rentals have skyrocketed in CA. I seriously doubt that anyone making $20/hour in CA could afford a decent apartment or afford a house. I read that homelessness has increased there.

@Kachina624 Sometimes college students, high school students, & retirees also take jobs in the fast food industry besides others who need the income. If the employment helps anyone pay the bills, then I think it's a good thing.
@Desert Lily. We'll hav3 to agree to disagree on this one. People should be paid for their skills and education. Fast food workers have little to offer and c should be paid accordingly.

This proposal is a sort of customer subsidized welfare....something for nothing.

Not everyone has skills or a higher education and not everyone is smart enough to get those things or have been economic disadvantaged.

If they receive a living wage, they can support themselves and won't need to use welfare benefits. Plus, they have the dignity of working for their wages.

Many unskilled jobs are hard work and not a plushy desk job.

Right now business' have little choice. If they don't pay good wages, no one will work for them.

Everyone who goes to work and does a good job should be compensated for working well, not for their education. Skills can always be learned on the job.

Also, everyone who has a higher education is not a good worker or are dependable. They do not deserve a higher wage than people who work their butt off just because they have a degree.

Parischic · ‎12-06-2022

I live in California and posted on this subject yesterday. Today I bought a large diet coke and it cost 1.63
With tax.
They raised the price 20 cents in 1 day. Unbelievable

Ronettes · ‎12-13-2022

@Parischic wrote:
I live in California and posted on this subject yesterday. Today I bought a large diet coke and it cost 1.63
With tax.
They raised the price 20 cents in 1 day. Unbelievable

Same thing happening in NJ -

The price on just about everything increases continually, every week at the supermarket, the price on everything from milk to cereal has jumped 25 cents, 50 cents, and more.

We can only shop sale items now, there is no other way.

And this is just the last few years, wasn't like this before.

Ridiculous.

qbetzforreal · ‎08-28-2010

Rent is high in California. It's not just young people taking these jobs.

Sooner · ‎03-10-2010

@Carmie wrote:
@Kachina624 wrote:
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@Desert Lily wrote:
Thank goodness they're getting a raise. Housing costs and rentals have skyrocketed in CA. I seriously doubt that anyone making $20/hour in CA could afford a decent apartment or afford a house. I read that homelessness has increased there.

@Kachina624 Sometimes college students, high school students, & retirees also take jobs in the fast food industry besides others who need the income. If the employment helps anyone pay the bills, then I think it's a good thing.
@Desert Lily. We'll hav3 to agree to disagree on this one. People should be paid for their skills and education. Fast food workers have little to offer and c should be paid accordingly.

This proposal is a sort of customer subsidized welfare....something for nothing.
Not everyone has skills or a higher education and not everyone is smart enough to get those things or have been economic disadvantaged.

If they receive a living wage, they can support themselves and won't need to use welfare benefits. Plus, they have the dignity of working for their wages.

Many unskilled jobs are hard work and not a plushy desk job.

Right now business' have little choice. If they don't pay good wages, no one will work for them.

Everyone who goes to work and does a good job should be compensated for working well, not for their education. Skills can always be learned on the job.

Also, everyone who has a higher education is not a good worker or are dependable. They do not deserve a higher wage than people who work their butt off just because they have a degree.

@Carmie Many hard jobs are found in many areas of employment. The point here is that kids have to think about how they live as adults and get training and/or education to live that way. It's a fact. It's the facts that matter in life.

There are lots of opportunities, lots of professions and skilled jobs, and lots of salary levels. You have to make a living. You aren't usually given one. And if people aren't working, can someone tell me how they are living? Who is paying for them? Who is housing and feeding people who don't work?

Tori3569 · ‎06-27-2010

As perhaps the only person here who actually works in the QSR industry presently, there are some misconceptions on this thread.

In the NY tristate area where I oversee approx 100 stores as a corporate employee, we are having an extremely hard time hiring hourly employees. I have stores in NY, NJ and CT and it's hard everywhere, not just the smaller more affluent areas like Greenwich CT.

Most of the more than 2000 hourly employees in my region are not kids at all. They're an older and diverse workforce. In some cases they have 2 jobs and a spouse that also works. Most do not have college degrees. These people are the backbone of the QSR industry now.

Even with the increase in minimum wage, (whatever starts in CA, usually gets here within 6 months) it will still be less than we're paying now. We're around $22-$24 for an hourly position with no experience needed. If we paid less, we'd get tons of no call / no show employees and a huge turnover, which is what kills service and raises prices.

I just wanted to share my perspective as someone who oversees a lot of hiring, training and has a goal of minimizing turnover.